Sabel Shotguns

[George1990]

After a s/s shotgun (early Christmas pressie ) and come across a nice Sabel sidelock.

 

I have seen and read about a fair few makes, but not Sabel. Any ideas on reliablity, worth the price, availability of parts and quality etc?

 

Cheers

 

 

Looks tight and well looked after by the pic. Can't go to see it for a while your knowledge will have to satisfy me in the meantime :good:

Edited March 14, 2010 by George1990

[lordofthewings]

Mr Gough-Thomas who use to review guns in the Shooting Times thought highly of these guns, If memory serves there were two models the Black Sabel, and the Silver Sabel. You may be able to access these reviews on the S/T website. Going by the configuration of the triggers this looks like a true L/H sidelock. Are you left-handed?LOTW

[BlaserF3]

I am positive that all triggers on S/S guns are manufactured that way round, due to the lock work for the left hand barrel.

 

When I first started shooting , over 30 years ago they were quite popular as a game gun.

 

I am sure that Gunmark now GMK imported them.

Edited October 25, 2009 by BlaserF3

[viking]

i saw that gun a while ago and rang up about it, its not the picture of the actual gun for sale, he made a mistake with the photos, think he said that one was £650, ****** ah

[George1990]

Thanks. It says that it is right handed on the advert, so I hope it is

 

Let's hope it isn't quite £650. :good: I'll have a look on Shooting Times

Edited March 23, 2010 by George1990

[Harnser]

I have a silver sable sidelock and rate them very highly as a game gun . They are very well made ,well balanced and can be described as a very honest copy of an english game gun . I think you will have to pay closer to £500 for a good clean one . They were imported from spain by gunmark to fill the niche market for people who wanted a good quality sidelock at a reasonable price .

Harnser .

Edited October 25, 2009 by Harnser

[BlaserF3]

Were they not made by this http://doublegunshop.com/arrieta1.htm company?

[Delbert]

I had a Silver 25" with scroll engraving beautifully made and very light

(which is why I had to let it go). There is one on Sporting Guns' classified

for £180 if you need a light gun well worth a look. I had no trouble

getting a firing pin replaced.

[deeksofdoom]

I had no trouble getting a firing pin replaced.

 

That's the only problem with old Spanish guns it can be impossible to get spare parts for them. I have a Gorosabel which has a broken ejector cam and I can't get a replacement one for it. At the moment the ejectors have been disabled and I'm shooting away fine with it, but I'ld rather if they were working.

[libs]

I shoot a black sable boxlock non-ejector, and so far there hasn't been one problem. It was my grandfather's and sat idle in an uncles safe for about 25 years before I got it, and worked perfectly first time round, I pressume thats a pretty good indication of reliability!

[Windy]

Up until recently i had a Laurona black sable deluxe.

was my grandfathers....very nice gun, very pretty and shot well. however i was shooting a lot of clays so wanted a new o/u. PX'd it for my current gun. Really wish I'd kept it now, but I needed the cash for the new one. Was thinking of buying it back but believe the dealer has sold it.

[mattslaptop247]

I have the black boxlock one. Can't fault it. They arepretty similar to the AYA's having disc set strikers etc. Good guns for the money. I paid £120 for mine, its like new. They all seem to have pretty nice wood too.

[v-max]

Hi i had the balck sable delux sidelock case haedend model with 27" barrel 2"3/4 chamber's with improved cyl & quarter choke. I had it for 12yrs & sold it to fund my beretta urika 11 i have now. The sable was a great gun & only thing i had go wrong was a firing pin other than that great gun. Here is a pic of it on a woodcock day i had.

[MK38]

There is some confusion over what a Sable is, i can't find a single sure answer.... i was told that they werea gun assembled from many different sources... the barrels made in one place, action in another .... then sold to gun Makers to assemble and finish. Arrietta ake the top of the range models it seems , but as for the other models ( of which there are many ) i'm unsure.

I've had three Sable's...

First one was just stamped 'Sable' and was boxlock n/e , very plain but solid and reliable.... after years of use by me i sold it to a friend, and its still going strong.

The second was a ' Silver Sable' sidelock n/e. it was a cheap sidelock , but had nice engraving and wood ... it shot well and was very reliable, it was the gun i used in both my avatar and signature pics

 

 

I was forced to sell it some year later.....

 

My latest 'Sable' is another boxlock n/e, this one has disc set strikers, the only one i've had that has..... it's proven reiable so far and although cheap, is nice to handle and looks good.

I'd love for the true story of Sable guns to be revealed, they are a good gun..... even if it turns out they are really barstadised guns.

 

 

Dave

[George1990]

Well went on Friday to have a look. Looked amazing when he bought it out, and I couldn't resist. It's a Silver Sable, SLNE, with a very annoying auto-safety

 

Barrels are perfectly clean - very small bit of rust where rib meets barrel -but blueing spotless. Not even worn at the muzzle from going in and out of slips. Pretty much no wear elsewhere either. A real steal for the money. All very tight and the wood isn't knocked about at all.

 

It is a right-hander but as you say the triggers feel better for a lefty, as you can slide off the front onto the back. Feels very pointable - taking it out on the clays in a mo. My O/U feels like a lump of dead weight in comparison.

 

Here's some pictures if you're interested

 

I'd appreciate it someone could tell me how to get into it. If I remove the screws in the sideplate, are bits likely to fall out? And how to take the stock off. I'm pretty sure of the ones to undo but you never know, might end up undoing ones which you shouldn't.

 

:blink:

Edited October 31, 2009 by George1990

[unclemicky]

George that looks a lovely gun , I tried to swap my triggers over on my Spanish sxs but the slots were different widths as I'm right handed and the trigger set up would be better for a lefty , what I did to take the stock off is

1 remove trigger guard screw an a slight tug on the trigger guard to free from the wood, then unscrew the whole trigger guard,

2 the screw underneath the trigger guard undo , the opposite end to this screw should be at the bottom of the safety and you should see it turning as you unscrew it ,

3 push the ejection lever to the right as you would to open the gun , undo the screw that has been revealed,

4 there was on my "The Basque" a forth screw holding the trigger plate onto the body of the mechanism where the edge of your palm of your hand is in the middle picture undo that one and the whole mech should come away from the stock , the trigger mech could be removed first with a wiggle of the safety lever.

 

I did not remove any screws from the side plates , George have a look at this method as I dont know for sure if its the same for your gun ,

cheers Michael.

Edited November 1, 2009 by unclemicky

[George1990]

Thanks mickey. I'll have a look when I'm next home. All i really want to do is find out how the mechanism works (I'm one of those who doesn't like using something unless I know exactly how i works :) ) and see if it's possible to deactivate the auto-safety.

 

I noticed that there are two holes either side of the firing pins, which look like you would put a tool in and unsrcrew. You can see that these have been opened a lot of times. Would this suggest that there has been a problem with the firing pins?