Ray Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 Would be interesting to read your comment and opinions on which one of these you would choose given that the cost of these guns is very similar. Would you stick with the old faithful 682 or perhaps try the new kid on the block. I was about to buy the berretta but having had a look at the Guerini I’m not so sure. Both fit well in fact they feel pretty similar. The finish on the Guerini is in my opinion, at least as good if not superior than the 682 and it has a few nice touches which suggest to me your getting a lot of bang for your buck! Happy to be proved wrong and have my opinion changed. What do you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicky T Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 PDLM is a good person to contact regarding Guerinis as he's owned a few in his time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter De La Mare Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 It's going to come down to personal feeling for each to decide this quandry. Beretta is obviously the well known brand of the moment, reliable, excellent clay gun, etc. Guerini the new unproven brand, but for value for money for what you get it's hard to argue against the Guerini. Also handles, shoots well, and doesn't fall apart. I'd be happy with either. Though I am a bit of a tart, and the far prettier Guerini swung it for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyb Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 I've owned a 682 Gold E in the past... If I was chosing again, It would be a Guerini. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 (edited) I have owned a number of guns - many Browning Mirokus etc. At the moment I have a Miroku MK38, a Beretta 682 Gold E and a Guerini. All are 32" trap models. Guerini is the heaviest, but doesn't feel like it. Looks well engineered and nicely balanced. I have never been a Beretta fan, but I have been using the 682 for about six weeks with very good results. If I was to chose the best value for money - probably the Miroku. Between the Beretta and Guerini - little to chose in build quality or handling, but Guerini is more gun for your money. Edited October 29, 2009 by Gordon R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHunter Posted October 29, 2009 Report Share Posted October 29, 2009 I have the Gold-E and really can't point to a single fault, it is everything to all men. (as long as it fits you) A bit too nice to take into the field though. TH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glensman Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 I've the Gold E as well, I find it's equally at home in the field as on clays... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marley29 Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 The Gold E is a great clay gun but the Guerini looks much nicer If I was choosing between the two I know where I would be looking first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 682 Gold E will take as lot of beating. I won't change mine, I've even sacked the idea of chopping it in for a DT10, so that says something. Caesar Guerinis look nicer if you like pretty guns, but that don't mean squat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter De La Mare Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 Caesar Guerinis look nicer if you like pretty guns, but that don't mean squat They aren't just pretty, they are also the equal of the midrange B guns in terms of quality and reliability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beretta Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 another 20 years will tell that pete. there are 2 types of gun 1 for shooting and 1 for looking at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter De La Mare Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 So that's why you have a fancy coin finish action with lots of engraving then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beretta Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 So that's why you have a fancy coin finish action with lots of engraving then? standard engraving pete. a mate training to be an engraver put a rose on the top lever and then gold plated the rose. is that fancy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter De La Mare Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 Yes it is And what about the posh 'Coin' finish? It's very shiney indeed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beretta Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 must be my bling then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter De La Mare Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 Yup, you secretly desire to be a black man, I can tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beretta Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 ok ya pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweedledee Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 funny enough i shoot a 686e but i recently looked at a guerini 2nd hand in a local dealer.wished i had have bought it now to be honest.felt a really good gun to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 Since my last post, I have been comparing them in earnest. If anyone said compare Browning to Beretta - it's a bit easier - completely different designs - both excellent in their own right. Beretta v Guerini - not that easy - both are similar - shallow action - Italian feel - similar balance. Almost too hard to call, but I still believe Guerini is more gun for your pound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfa taf Posted October 30, 2009 Report Share Posted October 30, 2009 another 20 years will tell that pete. there are 2 types of gun 1 for shooting and 1 for looking at I could not agree more.I have had a number of o/u in my time and I must say - for me - you can not easily buy better gun for that amount of money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardwoods Green Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 Guerini is just a tarted up B Rizzini/Fabarm (old style) and will not last the test of time IMHO. As for the 682, well Beretta aren't the worlds oldest gun manufacturer for nothing!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Posted November 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 Hi Guys Thanks for the replies. I think it is a difficult one hence perhaps the emotive replies? Over the weekend I have had both these guns side by side on the bench. In terms of build quality there is little to set them apart. Even the handling is similar. I’m also led to believe an English maker uses the metalwork of the Guerini adds the wood and calls it a St. James? Which are selling well for around ten grand? I appreciate there is perhaps a resale value issue but used examples are pretty much on a par. Although one could argue in terms of the Guerini that is down to marketing at the moment, five years down the road could be a different story. I think regardless whether the gun is a tarted up whatever it is a damned fine piece of kit for the Money, probably unbeatable at present and personally aesthetics do play a part in my gun choice. So if the guns are inseparable in every other way I think the elegance of the Guerini is the deciding factor and that’s where my money will be going. Thanks again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRDS Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 Guerini is just a tarted up B Rizzini/Fabarm (old style) and will not last the test of time IMHO. As for the 682, well Beretta aren't the worlds oldest gun manufacturer for nothing!! Ditto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWD Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 I think with modern CNC machining techniques , and all the other stuff that goes into modern engineering all the mid class guns are going to be as reliable as each other..like modern cars not much goes wrong unlike the old days ...so I would buy what fits and feels the best...and if that's similar..go on looks its a big influence anyway otherwise we would never have engraving ,polished action, case hardened...they would all be made of beech and hamerited . I would go for the Caesar ( and I have always had Berettas) ...just cause its different and the top finish is better looking , there probably aint much between them in depreciation just the Beretta will sell quicker maybe , but were is the fun buying a gun for the next owner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malkiserow Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 I recently (back in the summer) had a CG day shooting all their range. It came about from an invitaiton from a friend who owns a CG. I've really liked his 20 bore CG and was very intersted to try the whole range. I loved them and especially the small bores. I even used some very long barrel guns to good effect. I've a Beretta auto and love it. And moreover, today I bought another Beretta not a CG. Need I say more? OK a bit more on the CG...... Two words.... tarts handbag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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