MPT1 Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 Can anyone explain why Game shooting is not allowed on Sundays? If it is Law, why, when and who by? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 its tradition goes back to days when Sundays were for church and rest, its why you also cannot hunt on sundays or christmas days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbo Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 im preety sure its because of a long time ago the keepers of estate were made to go to church or wanted to go whatever but when they were away at the service poachers were stealing there birds so its something like well used to be, know one to be seen with or shoot game on a sunday i was once told thats why it started but im not sure now what act and all that it is. i just now you cant game on a sunday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 I think it's something to do with the 'gentry' that did most shooting on Sundays. I may be wrong though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinkfooty Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 Here in Scotland, where game shooting is legal on Sundays, practically no-one does it. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonT Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 It only realtes to game as vermin shooting is allowed, as far as I am aware.. So we can still get bunnies for the pot.. So the Sunday church thing doesn't make much sense, unless they didn't have vermin shooting back in the day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 vermin shooting wasn't a leisure activity as it now seems to be though hence the allowed on a sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 All quarry taken years ago was game or wildfowl. Game was, as it is now, shot for sport and was preserved for the landowner. Poaching was treated seriously and the penalties severe. When the game laws were made they reflected the fact that sport did not take place on a Sunday. In our Christian country the Sabbath has always been sacrosanct insomuch as work and sport have never taken place. Hence shops close, factories shut and markets don't open on Sunday (or used to). Today in many rural areas shops still close, people don't shoot and farmers only feed their stock undertaking no other work. You would get some very funny looks round here if you went vermin shooting on a Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbart Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 Can anyone explain why Game shooting is not allowed on Sundays? If it is Law, why, when and who by? I dont think it is something you need to worry about as from other posts tradition,rules regs and the like are not something you care for or abide by so why ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPT1 Posted December 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 Thanks for all the attempts to explain it. I'm not sure from the answers if it is a law or tradition imposed by "The Gentry". Blackb. You are obviously unable to contribute anything other than vitriol, perhaps if you were able to take some things with a pinch of salt you might be more normal in your reactions. The idea of a forum is to glean information from the knowledgeable. Sometimes by introducing a "contraversy" it sparks a more in depth debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepshed Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 Thanks for all the attempts to explain it. I'm not sure from the answers if it is a law or tradition imposed by "The Gentry". It may have started as a tradition but it is now law - the Wildlife and Countryside act 1981 In England and Wales no game (including hare) may be shot in any county on any Sunday or on Christmas day. In Northern Ireland, game, deer, rabbits and pest birds may not be shot on Sundays or on Christmas Day In Scotland there are no statutory restrictions on the killing of game on Sunday or on Christmas Day although it is not customary to do so (and in parts of Scotland even hanging out your washing on a Sunday will bring disapproving looks) See the BASC website for full details Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPT1 Posted December 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 Sheepshed' Thanks for the succinct information. This is what this forum is about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 The idea of a forum is to glean information from the knowledgeable. Sometimes by introducing a "contraversy" it sparks a more in depth debate. why is it a controversy? its a law in the UK been so for donkeys years not going to change and I don't know anyone interested in game shooting who would want it to change. Yes its based on tradition and history but the whole sport is hence the enthusiasts wear appropriate attire, use appropriate guns and follow a certain ettiquette that doesn't include air guns, cammo clothing or blasting them out of trees with pump actions. The BASC has a pretty indepth guide to game shooting on its website I'd suggest having a look and anything else theres a cracking search engine called google you can type your question in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ean76 Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 There used to be lots of things that weren't even entertained on Sundays - shopping, working and the like. Now Sunday is just another day really and people rarely seem to accept that it is a time to be with family/friends and just taking a day out. Saying that, I'm working Saturday and Sunday. Guess that makes me a hypocrite! (shift work for ya). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPT1 Posted December 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 Al4x I did't mean that this was contraversial, I was referring to something that Blackb was alluding to. Contraversy would be caused if someone ridiculed those that get all ponced up to go shooting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catamong Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 Al4xI did't mean that this was contraversial, I was referring to something that Blackb was alluding to. Contraversy would be caused if someone ridiculed those that get all ponced up to go shooting. So you'd turn up in jeans and a West Ham top? Cat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonT Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 I dont game shoot, but would go out on a sunday morn for fox and rabbitts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 So you'd turn up in jeans and a West Ham top? Cat. yup and wait for them to stop so he could shoot them with his airgun, how you explain the difference between game shooting and vermin control is beyond me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPT1 Posted December 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 Cat, No, I don't possess a football top of any description and where I live a West Ham shirt would be totally inapropriate. If you were to invite me to a days "sporting" I would wear my nice tweed jacket with twill trousers and brogues. I wear dinner jacket for formal dinners, swimming trunks on the beach, a Crombi when it is cold and a Rainman mac when its wet. On site I wear PPE. When I'm in the pub I wear out the elbows of whatever I have on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docholiday Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 Cat,No, I don't possess a football top of any description and where I live a West Ham shirt would be totally inapropriate. If you were to invite me to a days "sporting" I would wear my nice tweed jacket with twill trousers and brogues. I wear dinner jacket for formal dinners, swimming trunks on the beach, a Crombi when it is cold and a Rainman mac when its wet. On site I wear PPE. When I'm in the pub I wear out the elbows of whatever I have on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha Mule Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 And the reason pubs used to shut at 2.30 in the afternoon? To get folks back into the munitions factories before they got too drunk at lunch time (during World War 1). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPT1 Posted December 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 Alphamule That is pretty random, I suppose hence the name. (only joking) Sunday closing was 2pm, open again at 7pm close at 10.30. Iremember being in Wales when there was no Sunday opening. That was a great tradition wasn't it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David BASC Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 It was more to do with the then gentry protecting all game shooting for themselves I suggest. The working man in the 19th C, remember, typically only got one day of a week Sunday. So make shooting on a Sunday illegal… Also the Game Licence, remember when it came out in the 19tgh C it was probably more than the average monthly wage of a working man! Do we really want it changed in England? Not so sure, as like in Scotland if it did change I cannot imagine many people queuing up to go shooting on a Sunday. Nor do I think would it necessarily politically a good thing to campaign to have this law revoked, not sure what we would relay gain by it personally David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPT1 Posted December 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 Sunday is a day off for most people and on days off they pursue their hobbies. Fishing,gardening, DIY, so why not shooting, whatever the discipline. Not allowing game shooting is the same as not allowing fly fishing, isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MM Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 I was reading into this the other day. Basically, if you were caught with game on a sunday, you must have been a poacher, as the well-to-do folk were all in church. Store keepers and publicans closed on sundays as well, and this was related to the shooting of game. The local shopkeeper was starting to take in game and to the sell pub. Hence, sunday opening times to coincide with church times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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