utectok Posted December 13, 2009 Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 As stated borrowed a tractor in the end after smelling to much burning clutch! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utectok Posted December 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 Suppose I'd better say its a hylux low and high 4wd and rear diff lock. marginal tread on the tyres Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shot shot Posted December 13, 2009 Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 get you out of that situation, not a chance, prevented you getting into the situation int the first place, maybe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted December 13, 2009 Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 depends on how deep the "mush" was, no tread dont help lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banjobill Posted December 13, 2009 Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 Winch and ground anchor? Or drive a bit faster! BB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utectok Posted December 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 it seemed firm enough at the bottom of the trench as it were but the mud was pretty clagging. I didn't want to risk it in the first place but my mate said it down hill you'll be ok. so I went against my better judgment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utectok Posted December 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 mind you i was driving the thing so my fault really! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookiemonsterandmerlin. Posted December 13, 2009 Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 No matter what tryes you got on it clear from piccy the truck is bellied too wet and should not be on there is the harsh truth. Regards OTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shot shot Posted December 13, 2009 Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 as said before, more speed would have achieved somthing even if that somthing is a wild tank slapper and turning er over, its still somthing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ST3V3 Posted December 13, 2009 Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 i'll say maybe in off road tyres we are talking 37x12.5's arent we Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted December 13, 2009 Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 looks like you reversed into it... shaun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Sarakun Posted December 13, 2009 Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 A good set of Diamonds from Paddocks and you would not have got yourself into that situation, instead you would have pulled straight through that small amount of soppyness . Oh, but make sure you fit them to a proper off roader. A LAND ROVER! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzy518 Posted December 13, 2009 Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 That reminds me of when i ran over boggy ground and sank my truck up to the axles in mud.....I did manage to drive it out though.....But then i drive a Landrover!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stokie Posted December 13, 2009 Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 We play in mud deeper than that just for fun and never get stuck ........................Hahahaha landrovers rule Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utectok Posted December 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 I Agee I haave been through worse in a landy but that's not wot I got unfortunatly. The confusion about direction is because I got stuck and managed to move it out only in reverse till I got stuck again. Not sure about speed though intresting theory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProteuS Posted December 13, 2009 Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 it is all about momentum. However, as you say marginal tread, will make a big difference, even on a relatively road oriented tread. Saying that if you had a mud tread , larger size, and aired down I think you could have got through that ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utectok Posted December 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2009 proteus thanks for the tips! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted December 14, 2009 Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 There are some optimists on here to create ruts a foot deep on the first drive through no normal 4x4 is going to get through it as all thats stopped it going deeper is when you've bellied it out. Mud tyres can't work when the sump is on the ground and the amount of rolling resistance to created foot deep ruts is pretty amazing hence the smell of burning clutch. the person who said you shouldn't have been there was right and personally I'd have given up way before then, just hope your farmer doesn't mind the mess you've created Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2bangs Posted December 14, 2009 Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 As al4x has said, there's no way tyres would have made any diference there, even wth a set of grizzly claws on, once the axles are sitting on relatively firm ground you're going nowhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felly100 Posted December 14, 2009 Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 Who's land is it you were trashing if i was the land owner i'd have got the tractor out for you the next day but i am a right misery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookiemonsterandmerlin. Posted December 14, 2009 Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 (edited) it is all about momentum. However, as you say marginal tread, will make a big difference, even on a relatively road oriented tread. Saying that if you had a mud tread , larger size, and aired down I think you could have got through that ok I dont want to be rude but letting air out of your tyres would be as much us as a choclate fireguard all it would do is let the truck sit lower in the that big mud hole given even less traction. Having a large tyre would help slightly using momentum only helps if you have enough speed to clear the object and looking at that field it could have gone on for 300 or so mts thats if you dont wreck the truck using to high a speed. So be careful of giving incorrect advise to others as it could end in tears . Regards ex service person serviced in op telic and other theatres in the world driving landys. Edited December 14, 2009 by Over the hill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProteuS Posted December 14, 2009 Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 (edited) I too do not want to be rude, however it looks like you have misread / interpreted my post completely. I was not suggesting airing down the tyres after the matter of getting stuck. I was attempting to suggest a way to avoid the initial problem. Had he had much larger agressive tyres aired down significantly I postulate that it would make a massive difference to the grip and surface area / ground pressure. I recently spent a bit of time working with a chap and his unimog, on a standard mud stype pattern tyre, with his tyres aired down, he was able to drive through and load with logs over an area that was incredibly difficult to traverse on foot. Maybe the soft ground goes on for 300 metres , perhaps it was only a particularly boggy patch. I would not like to make a comment based on the small picture. The damage to the ground is another matter completely. I am merely answering his question as put. I would always endevour to avoid damaging land, particularly farmland and someone elses. However, I am aware that there are times when it is necessary to get through tricky spots. Regards Physcist who merely spends a fair bit of time driving off road. Edited December 14, 2009 by ProteuS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookiemonsterandmerlin. Posted December 14, 2009 Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 Sorry if I have misread your post But a unimog is a completely diffrent beast airing down on a mog reduces the surface to diff height by a few inchs which does not matter when you got huge ground clearance. Also the mog has a very low pound per square inch as starndard let alone airing down. Also airing down on said truck before the being stuck all he would have done is bury the front bumper/spoiler even deeper in the mud which would cause even more loss of traction. Regards somebody who has done off roading while being shot at by blokes with rags on there heads and where being stuck could be a life or death matter if you get it wrong. OTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus Posted December 14, 2009 Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 I think having a go, with the already poor tread on the tyres was brave. Better tread, road or otherwise, running low pressures to start with would have given you a better chance like others have said. Interesting to read the comments about lowering the pressures once already in that situation. I did see a programe about some tourists who went for a drive in the outback, in a 4x4, who subsequently got it beached. To cut a long story short, they broke all the rules and left the vehicle and tried to walk out. Needless to say, one died, the other was found collapsed but survived. When the rangers eventually got to the 4x4, they lowered the tyre pressures and drove it out. If only the tourists were better informed and prepared. When I originally read this post I remembered that programe and thought thats what I would have tried, nothing to loose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted December 14, 2009 Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 get you out of that situation, not a chance, prevented you getting into the situation int the first place, maybe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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