NORTH VS SOUTH CHARITY CLAY DAY

[beretta]

i thought they wre all raffle prizes:yes: :unsure:

[Markio]

Personally i don't think it's right for any participants 'win' anything based on scores (trust the 'top shots' to suggest that!). As already said, go shoot and win it somewhere else if your that desperate for prizes. Thos items are their to raise cash, not to give away to someone for turning up and shooting!

 

Just my 2p (and i'll go with the flow obviously): As discussed with another PW'er at the weekend a possibility is if you did a raffle and won something you didn't want (like me winning a clay tuition in the north east!), then we can have a swap shop thread afterwards. For the bigger prizes that won't earn their justified value then eBay them.

 

I guess the auction idea could work but Markio Towers is in a cash crisis at the moment and while i'd stick a tenner in for a raffle i wouldn't have the sort of cash required towards an auction, but that's me being tight.

 

EDIT: Sorry Matt, i was typing this before your post. Oops.

Edited March 8, 2010 by Markio

[SPARKIE]

raffle tickets. £2 each

.£2 a number seems a good idea id have a tenners worth atleast if all the good prizes of interest havent been given out to the high guns

 

I think there needs to be some serious thinking about the prizes for the top shots in each team, obviously there needs to be a very attractive High Gun prize, perhaps the very best of the prizes put up by the sponsors can be set aside for the top 2 or 3 shots to take their pick, then raffle off the rest, sounds pretty fair to me, that way everybody is happy..??

i disagree with this statement im not puttin my hand in my pocket to give you and ya cronies my hard earned.....i think we should have some t shirts made for high guns with the emblem and something like pw number one and so on im coming for the laugh and the charity not to line other shooters pockets.

Cat.

 

 

Yes,

 

Lets have some cash for the high gun as well?

 

Why can't a fun day ever be a fun day without someone wanting to profit from it?

i totally agree with mc its a charity day i think all the prizes barring carts should be offered as a raffle give the carts to the top guns lets make some money for gos.

 

 

Great idea what this man said, but let the ticket winner choose his/her prize :unsure:

i think the prize should be shown then drawn for its the only fair way.

 

 

What if the ticket holder isnt there or is this an attendance only raffle?

 

shaun

as above if you win thats the prize you get.

[Mungler]

If you add up the net value of the raffle prizes, they far exceed the value of what the individual attendees are likely to bring with them / spend at the day itself.

 

That's selling the charity short.

 

Expensive prizes should be auctioned on the Watch or even opened upto eBay thereby getting best value for the items and the most money for the charity.

 

Shooting related gear and odds and **** can be raffled on the day.

 

Shooting performance related prizes should be limited to the usual trophy / decanter type stuff. I have a nice decanter set I got for straighting a shoot and am happy to throw that in if the likes of Cat want to win a trinket that badly.

 

Simples.

[100milesaway]

I strongly disagree,

 

The raffle prizes have been donated with them being RAFFLE prizes, not for some sandbagger to come out the closet and take the booty.

 

If you want to win something go and shoot JJ's, If you want to have some fun with some like minded people then come to Hodnet. All this talk of ringing the ground and asking them to put on the next World Championship needs to be stopped as well.

 

No one gives a **** if Cat and his cronies get a 96. However if some of the people who haven't shot clays before only get really low scores then the day has failed IMO.

Tongue in cheek , old boy . I wouldn't be so pressumptuous to tell someone of Tom's capabilities how to set his birds up.It has been normal for the best prizes at a charity shoot to be handed back for the raffle anyway.I'm sure Catamong and Berretta have done that and seen it done on numerous occassions.from Auntie. :unsure:

[MJN]

I'm really looking forward to a great day out along with my son and all the other PW'ers (North and Saarf) , if I should draw a bottle of whisky in the prize draw , all the better to celebrate the South thrashing the north :-)

 

As for the high gun prize I'll take whatever I'm given .

 

Thanks

 

M.

[MM]

I think there needs to be some serious thinking about the prizes for the top shots in each team, obviously there needs to be a very attractive High Gun prize, perhaps the very best of the prizes put up by the sponsors can be set aside for the top 2 or 3 shots to take their pick, then raffle off the rest, sounds pretty fair to me, that way everybody is happy..?? :unsure:

 

Cat.

 

really hope you are kidding.

 

im not there to win anything, as im sure most PWers feel the same. im there to have a laugh and meet some members from the site. im not a clay shooter, ive only hit 10 clays in my life, and dont expect to hit many more on the day.

Edited March 8, 2010 by MM

[Chard]

I see the bitching has started again :unsure:

 

As long as it doesn't turn into a rich ****'s "I've got more wedge than you" charity auction, I don't really care.

 

There's enough of those in Cheshire as it is, with all the Hale Barns poofs trying to make out that they're the great and good by bidding stupid amounts for a load of tat. They have no interest in charity, they just want to be seen as able to afford stupid bids.

 

For a lot of people, fifty quid plus raffles and **** knows what else is a fairly stiff day out. I won't be digging much deeper, I'm afraid

[smig4373]

I tend to agree with the Raffle idea....If there's 50ppl(theres going to be more i reckon)....each spend a 10enner on raffle tickets......thats another £500 in the kitty...i know that doesnt cover the cost of the prizes....but i didnt think that was the idea.... :unsure: just a thought...i'll be happy just to be there and have a laugh..Probably at my expense....If i get double figures ill be having a red letter day....or if i could put a decoy pattern out for the clays to land in...i'll be ok then...

 

 

Put me down for a PW T-shirt too....

 

P.S...There is a prize for worst score of the day...but thats between me and ME..

[malkiserow]

I see the bitching has started again :unsure:

 

As long as it doesn't turn into a rich ****'s "I've got more wedge than you" charity auction, I don't really care.

 

There's enough of those in Cheshire as it is, with all the Hale Barns poofs trying to make out that they're the great and good by bidding stupid amounts for a load of tat. They have no interest in charity, they just want to be seen as able to afford stupid bids.

 

For a lot of people, fifty quid plus raffles and **** knows what else is a fairly stiff day out. I won't be digging much deeper, I'm afraid

 

I, for one am hoping the spirit of the day wins out

 

As Catherine Tate said when she circulated photocopies of her butt .... "its just for the crack" IMHO If folks want to push donations for GOSH up then use the Just Giving link that ME has in his autosignature

 

BTW ME, my money is on its way as we speak

[Mungler]

For example though, why let £2k of prizes go for say £500 of raffle ticket money (tops) - assuming everyone who goes sticks in an extra tenner.

 

I reckon the big ticket stuff should go on ebay. The shoot is about the day out, but overal it's about raising a bit of money for charity.

 

Failing all else - ask the people who have coughed the good gear whether they would like to see it go for full value and the proceeds go to charity or sold short in a raffle. I think it should be their call.

[smig4373]

For example though, why let £2k of prizes go for say £500 of raffle ticket money (tops) - assuming everyone who goes sticks in an extra tenner.

 

I reckon the big ticket stuff should go on ebay. The shoot is about the day out, but overal it's about raising a bit of money for charity.

 

Failing all else - ask the people who have coughed the good gear whether they would like to see it go for full value and the proceeds go to charity or sold short in a raffle. I think it should be their call.

 

Thats a fair point Andy....But as ME said...Not everybodies going to be happy with whatever decision is taken with regard to the prizes.....Im Happy to go with the flo....Which ever way its done..... :unsure:

Edited March 8, 2010 by smig4373

[shaun4860]

oooops double post... :unsure:

Edited March 8, 2010 by shaun4860

[shaun4860]

I see the bitching has started again :unsure:

 

As long as it doesn't turn into a rich ****'s "I've got more wedge than you" charity auction, I don't really care.

 

There's enough of those in Cheshire as it is, with all the Hale Barns poofs trying to make out that they're the great and good by bidding stupid amounts for a load of tat. They have no interest in charity, they just want to be seen as able to afford stupid bids.

 

For a lot of people, fifty quid plus raffles and **** knows what else is a fairly stiff day out. I won't be digging much deeper, I'm afraid

 

 

Totally agree.....

 

for me its VERY stiff day......unemployed through illness and other probs but i wanted to attend just to meet everyone and helping the charity, and i shall be doing that.

 

i wont win the shoot (im not good enough) because i know my limitations but as you said im not digging any deeper so the "elite" can prosper

 

shaun

 

PS im still looking forward to it....

[Mrs Sweepy]

I think you should all meet up at the end of the day

And fight for the raffle in the style of Bugsy Malone

 

 

 

MATT YOUR DOING A GREAT JOB BABES :unsure:

xxxxxSuzy

[Mungler]

Thats a fair point Andy....But as ME said...Not everybodies going to be happy with whatever decision is taken with regard to the prizes.....Im Happy to go with the flo....Which ever way its done..... :unsure:

 

 

I suggested a split.

 

Anything worth more than £75 to go into auction.

 

Anything less, shooting related or booze go into a raffle on the day.

 

Something for everyone there.

 

Using the stove as an example, if you donated a £400 stove you wouldn't want to see it go shoulder to shoulder with a slab of 250 carts or a bottle of scotch in a raffle which raises comparatively little. Also, if you won a stove in a raffle the chances are you might not want it.

[malkiserow]

I might be wrong, but I for one gave a prize in good faith and trust that all other donations were in exactlly the same light - no conditions attached. I understood the prizes were for a raffle and not a ebay money making machine, or indeed, a method or just raising more dosh for GOSH. I am not against money to GOSH but just trying to support the right spirit of the day :unsure:

 

GOSH will do OK

[shaun4860]

I think you should all meet up at the end of the day

And fight for the raffle in the style of Bugsy Malone

 

 

 

MATT YOUR DOING A GREAT JOB BABES :unsure:

xxxxxSuzy

 

 

hear hear

 

shaun

[beretta]

I might be wrong, but I for one gave a prize in good faith and trust that all other donations were in exactlly the same light - no conditions attached. I understood the prizes were for a raffle and not a ebay money making machine, or indeed, a method or just raising more dosh for GOSH. I am not against money to GOSH but just trying to support the right spirit of the day :unsure:

 

GOSH will do OK

 

this was what i was told at the start. we are making plenty for the charity, and prizes donated to the raffle were for the people who donated to charity, via the entry cost, and personal donations. if someone donated a car for the raffle it should stay in the raffle. no matter what its worth.

 

i want that gunslip as i need one.

[Mungler]

this was what i was told at the start. we are making plenty for the charity, and prizes donated to the raffle were for the people who donated to charity, via the entry cost, and personal donations. if someone donated a car for the raffle it should stay in the raffle. :unsure: no matter what its worth.

 

i want that gunslip as i need one.

 

 

I didn't realise that coming to the day and making that initial £10 donation to charity somehow "bought" you a place on the bargain raffle.

 

Have you never been to an event where there was a charity auction? You could bid on that gun slip you need and would

otherwise have to purchase from a shop.

 

I don't need a stove so I wouldn't bid on one and wouldn't want one in a raffle. Someone who does want a stove and otherwise who would have had to buy one could bid on it - as above, rather than buy one from a shop they could buy one through the auction and the whole purchase moneys go to charity.

Edited March 8, 2010 by Mungler

[ME]

22510 views on this thread now - whoop whoop !

[malkiserow]

22510 views on this thread now - whoop whoop !

 

Do you have lots of mirrors in your house by any chance? :unsure:

[ME]

for me its VERY stiff day

 

I am getting "movement" just thinking about it too Shaun, glad it's not just me. I dont think that I'll be able to sleep the night before. (well not on my front anyway) :unsure:

[malkiserow]

A thought - a compromise ............ if someone won a raffle prize they did not want (or felt they did not need), they could choose to put it to auction

[Mr Potter]

For example though, why let £2k of prizes go for say £500 of raffle ticket money (tops) - assuming everyone who goes sticks in an extra tenner.

 

I reckon the big ticket stuff should go on ebay. The shoot is about the day out, but overall it's about raising a bit of money for charity.

 

Failing all else - ask the people who have coughed the good gear whether they would like to see it go for full value and the proceeds go to charity or sold short in a raffle. I think it should be their call.

 

 

I suggested a split.

 

Anything worth more than £75 to go into auction.

 

Anything less, shooting related or booze go into a raffle on the day.

 

Something for everyone there.

 

 

Using the stove as an example, if you donated a £400 stove you wouldn't want to see it go shoulder to shoulder with a slab of 250 carts or a bottle of scotch in a raffle which raises comparatively little. Also, if you won a stove in a raffle the chances are you might not want it.

I think the spirit of this N v S thing is beginning to happen :unsure: Here's me a committed Northern numptie in virtually total agreement with one of the top Southern softies. Just looking at the list to date of donated prizes some of them scream out to be either auctioned on ebay or, if that proves unpopular, at the least raffled to a much bigger audience than the small percentage of PWers who will be there on 29/05 (before anyone shouts at me I realise that the majority of active PWers want to be there but different circumstances mean only a relatively few can be)

I've been able to donate a few bits and bobs into the pot and to do anything other than raffle them on the day would be foolish, equally foolish IMHO would be an auction on the day or even a PW only online auction for the big or expensive items, thats a recipe for someone getting a bargain not raising the biggest amount of money for GOSH.

 

One thing is important and that's to support whatever decision ME comes to. Lets not throw our toys out of the pram with this, the one thing we need to do is demonstrate to the Great British public how generous shooters are and Pigeon Watch shooters are the best of the bunch.

 

Mr Potter