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Are semi-auto's still widely NOT accepted at your local pheasant shoot??  

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  1. 1. Are semi-auto's accepted at your shoot?

    • Yes - nobody minds so long as everyone is safe
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    • No - there is no chance of being allowed to shoot with a semi-auto
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    • They are starting to be accepted, but they are still a little frowned upon
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So turning up with an over and under is ok ?

20 years ago if you turned up on a shoot with an over and under everyone started whispering must be a clayshooter etc

Do you use a traditional gun George1990 ?

purdey boss holland+holland

If its not safety its snobbery

 

I have only been on one season of walked up shoot which I was invited too, and as I want a repeat invitation I used my side by side.

 

So wearing shoes rather than trainers to school is snobbery. Gotcha. :lol:

 

What is the fascination for people to keep changing things anyway? Keep it simple and use a proper gun.

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If I went to a restaurant in T-shirt, shorts and trainers and they refused me entry would I stand on the door arguing the toss. No, because there is a dress code and if I can't comply with it, then I don't get let in.

 

Simples.

 

If there is a syndicate and it has an established dress code or gun code then obey it. If not, don't shoot - in fact, go further and set up your own semi auto, pump action, jeans and T-shirt syndicate; there's nothing to stop anyone from doing that. That syndicate could then refuse entry to anyone who wanted to wear a shirt or shoot with a SBS.

 

Simples.

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If I went to a restaurant in T-shirt, shorts and trainers and they refused me entry would I stand on the door arguing the toss. No, because there is a dress code and if I can't comply with it, then I don't get let in.

 

Simples.

 

If there is a syndicate and it has an established dress code or gun code then obey it. If not, don't shoot - in fact, go further and set up your own semi auto, pump action, jeans and T-shirt syndicate; there's nothing to stop anyone from doing that. That syndicate could then refuse entry to anyone who wanted to wear a shirt or shoot with a SBS.

 

Simples.

 

 

It is soley becuase the game shooting semi auto users are in fact anarchists...........

 

Anyway whats the matter with a good old bit of call it 'British snobbery' The whole nation was brought up on it

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Semi's are not acceptable, as theyre not a sporting gun - Shooting is a fair game sport, - if you cant hit the bird with the 1st, or the 2nd barrel, then that's tuff luck. You dont see Eric Bristow throw 3 darts & pull out another 2 from his back pocket. That would be unsporting. ( yes, aswell as against the rules )

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Semi's are not acceptable, as theyre not a sporting gun - Shooting is a fair game sport, - if you cant hit the bird with the 1st, or the 2nd barrel, then that's tuff luck. You dont see Eric Bristow throw 3 darts & pull out another 2 from his back pocket. That would be unsporting. ( yes, aswell as against the rules )

 

 

Spoken like a true armchair expert.

 

Of course semi's are a sporting gun, there is ABSOLUTELY no difference between the shot that comes out of a semi than there is the shot that comes from a pair of Holland and Holland side by sides. There is nothing magical about a semi auto.

 

You may not see Eric Bristow pull two more darts out of his pocket but you will see him take his 3 darts out of the dartboard and throw again. Just like reloading a gun.

 

I would bet that I could fire 6 accurate shots with an over and under quicker than anyone could fire the same from a standard semi auto. So how does that make it a fair game sport? Everyone is harping on about the semi auto user as having more shots, but in reality the guys using the "TRADITIONAL" guns get more shooting.

 

I remember seeing a guy with a 9 shot auto shooting a flurry and after the initial 9 shots he missed so many clays while trying to reload.

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so if its all fair and sweet why is it illegal to use a semi on game that can hold more than two cartridges :yes:

 

Mungler has the correct analogy on it, semis simply aren't in the dress code on driven shoots here. They are in the US and look what that leads to youtube has some real classics on it

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so if its all fair and sweet why is it illegal to use a semi on game that can hold more than two cartridges :yes:

 

Mungler has the correct analogy on it, semis simply aren't in the dress code on driven shoots here. They are in the US and look what that leads to youtube has some real classics on it

 

 

It isn't.

 

It is illegal to use a GUN having a MAGAZINE capable of holding more than two cartridges. That applies to pump action, semi auto or bolt action.

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I would bet that I could fire 6 accurate shots with an over and under quicker than anyone could fire the same from a standard semi auto.

 

 

I'd like to see that....as some "standard" semi-auto's are 8+1......unless you mean a 2+1 or non FAC....

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I'd like to see that....as some "standard" semi-auto's are 8+1......unless you mean a 2+1 or non FAC....

 

 

Yes

 

by STANDARD I meant on a SGC not FAC.

 

I would be pretty foolish to bet against a 8+1 semi wouldn't I? But then again they are illegal to use for game anyway.

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the trick is to not let them unload entirely and just keep ramming cartridges in at every possible opportunity. I do it when we rarely use shotguns out lamping rabbits and its definitely quicker, but let the last one go and you've blown the advantage

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maybe we're missing something with traditional pheasant shooting in the UK, after all this looks sporting :yes:

 

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Yes

 

by STANDARD I meant on a SGC not FAC.

 

I would be pretty foolish to bet against a 8+1 semi wouldn't I? But then again they are illegal to use for game anyway.

 

 

Ahh! ...,but you said on clays (a flurry) not on game....nothing illegal about that....

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This old chestnut has staggered through to 5 pages and now we have the "unsporting Yanks", that should be good for a few more and if someone introduces the ".22-v-.177" topic, we could make double figures. :yes:

 

The original question was "Are semi-auto's still widely NOT accepted on your local pheasant shoot ? "

 

I can confirm that they are not accepted on my local pheasant shoot, nor on any formal driven , or walked-up day I have ever attended.

The reason is that its the Host's choice.

My choice is whether I want to accept his restriction, or not.

Its as simple as that.

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