Ozzy Fudd Posted April 15, 2010 Report Share Posted April 15, 2010 http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20100415/tuk-uk...om-45dbed5.html just had someone on the phone in work telling me this, didnt believe it so looked it up.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted April 15, 2010 Report Share Posted April 15, 2010 All UK airspace is now going to be shut from 12:00 to 18:00 is the feedback I'm getting from my International forwarders, could well be extended as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agusta Posted April 15, 2010 Report Share Posted April 15, 2010 Yep, you dont want to be flying through that, not only will it sandblast the aircraft but it will also clog up the compressor blades........bang goes the engine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted April 15, 2010 Report Share Posted April 15, 2010 (edited) Practically anything airborne can pass through an aircraft engine, except volcanic ash. It destroys engines with fatal consequences. They first found out about it becuase a passenger plane flew through a huge cloud and some of the survivors from that crash saw sparks coming off the wings where the ash was slicing the plane to shreds... Apparently, just before the plane crashed, the whole plane was glowing orange from the friction from the ash! Edited April 15, 2010 by harfordwmj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuck. Posted April 15, 2010 Report Share Posted April 15, 2010 some of the survivors from that crash saw sparks coming off the wings where the ash was slicing the plane to shreds... eh?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agusta Posted April 15, 2010 Report Share Posted April 15, 2010 Practically anything airborne can pass through an aircraft engine, except volcanic ash. It destroys engines with fatal consequences. When I did my multi engine course we were lectured on what not to fly through: 1. Ash 2. Hail 3. Snow 4. Birds ! Hail and snow is fine as long as the engine doesn't ingest large quantities if it does the engine will surge, if you dont reduce power and clear the blockage it will flame out (pressures build up....destroys the blades). Engines are "bird" rated but its very rare they will continue to function afterwords! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet boy Posted April 15, 2010 Report Share Posted April 15, 2010 Anyone seen any ash up north? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted April 15, 2010 Report Share Posted April 15, 2010 Commercial jet engines have to pass a test which checks that an engine can survive after flying through a flock of birds. I think it was introduced after that concorde crash. Basically, even if a blade breaks off the engine, it'll not smash to bits and the other engine can power it to the nearest airport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted April 15, 2010 Report Share Posted April 15, 2010 Voilla! The actual flight I was on about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted April 15, 2010 Report Share Posted April 15, 2010 eh?? I was wrong about 'some' of the survivors. They all survived. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ozzy Fudd Posted April 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2010 just a quick heads up, if anyone has flights cancelled your travel insurance company may try to get out of paying... make sure you check the policy wording, it should have a list of exclusions, if volcanic activity isnt listed in there then you can argue it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jollysp2 Posted April 15, 2010 Report Share Posted April 15, 2010 My mates stuck at the airport was going to be a long weekend in spain but now he'll be lucky to get there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agusta Posted April 15, 2010 Report Share Posted April 15, 2010 Great all UK airspace is now closed, I was supposed to be flying down to Redhill this morning, now sitting in my office twiddling my thumbs harfordwmj: yes all turbine engines are bird strike tested, but thats lab conditions which never replicates 'real world', I haven't come across an engine thats been hit and not been shut down, all the test does is make sure the engine doesnt make metal which is obviously a bad thing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted April 15, 2010 Report Share Posted April 15, 2010 Now saying until further notice and not before 07:00 tomorrow. Really need to be in Chennai Monday morning, 22:00 flight tomorrow is looking at risk. May be driving to France on Saturday morning to take an alternative airline and route... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamW Posted April 15, 2010 Report Share Posted April 15, 2010 Im stuck in Prague on work and was due to fly tonight! cant get home till Saturday as tomorrows flight is full, that said, it might not go! But I can think of worse places to be Adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jollysp2 Posted April 15, 2010 Report Share Posted April 15, 2010 Im stuck in Prague on work and was due to fly tonight! cant get home till Saturday as tomorrows flight is full, that said, it might not go!But I can think of worse places to be Adam Must be a stag do you ccan tag along with!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJN Posted April 15, 2010 Report Share Posted April 15, 2010 Oi Iceland we said send Cash !!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted April 15, 2010 Report Share Posted April 15, 2010 Oi Iceland we said send Cash !!!!!!! Lol nice one I saw the air crash investigation a couple of months ago very good! Looks like most of europe is going to be without clean airspace.... If you need to get to Chennai your best bet may be hope the wind changes fast! if it gets worse I can see no flights getting out of western europe train to paris then which ever aiport is open! Clear skys here no sign of dust cloud and can't spot it on met office sat images either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted April 15, 2010 Report Share Posted April 15, 2010 (edited) Now saying until further notice and not before 07:00 tomorrow. Really need to be in Chennai Monday morning, 22:00 flight tomorrow is looking at risk. May be driving to France on Saturday morning to take an alternative airline and route... I think you're technically knackered, the recent update suggests very unlikely to be lifted tomorrow at 7 and it looks like Paris airports are closing as well as most of Europe. Even once they do open its going to be one hell of a mess timetable wise this is quite cool and is a webcam of the erruption, still looks like its pumping plenty out so could be a while before they re open http://eldgos.mila.is/eyjafjallajokull-fra-valahnjuk/ Edited April 15, 2010 by al4x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ballymac Posted April 15, 2010 Report Share Posted April 15, 2010 They first found out about it becuase a passenger plane flew through a huge cloud and some of the survivors from that crash saw sparks coming off the wings St Elmo's fire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted April 15, 2010 Report Share Posted April 15, 2010 (edited) Dumb or what This pic is of three blokes stranded when their flight to Egypt was cancelled due to the volcano. The T shirts are intriguing "Well we didn't come to Egypt to loose" Loose? Loose? Do they mean "lose"? If you're going to get a ******* T shirt printed, they could at least get the spelling right :lol: Edited April 15, 2010 by Chard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Posted April 15, 2010 Report Share Posted April 15, 2010 I had better get the charity ones spellchecked then, I am sure the logo read "Pidgeonwatch Charidy Clay Shot 2009" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted April 15, 2010 Report Share Posted April 15, 2010 I think you're technically knackered, the recent update suggests very unlikely to be lifted tomorrow at 7 and it looks like Paris airports are closing as well as most of Europe. Even once they do open its going to be one hell of a mess timetable wise this is quite cool and is a webcam of the erruption, still looks like its pumping plenty out so could be a while before they re open http://eldgos.mila.is/eyjafjallajokull-fra-valahnjuk/ You may well be right but a colleague is (supposed to be) flying from Nice on Sunday via Dubai on Emirates; to coin a phrase from a chewits advert "it's a long short but it might just work"... MC - I was just thinking the same thing One error is forgiven but two like that ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted April 15, 2010 Report Share Posted April 15, 2010 MC - I was just thinking the same thing One error is forgiven but two like that ... :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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