Paul223 Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 about time you wild fowlers got your heads from up your arises. Just like talking to some of the hunt/dog guys Mark, they reckon foxes should be hunted not shot with rifles and that we are just taking their sport from them double standards all the way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 double standards all the way your right there. would be uproar if we where to mention the thousand that are wounded with bad shotgun marksmanship during the season. but of course none are ever wounded. double standards all the way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave1979 Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 so....have we established iv anyones gunna sort the poor guy a goose carcass.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 (edited) so....have we established iv anyones gunna sort the poor guy a goose carcass.. if he had asked me last week he could have had a dozen. (young and old) AS for good eating, i would rather eat a pair of asians trainers. Edited May 14, 2010 by markbivvy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave1979 Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 ha ha..good one mark!!! i am out with the air gun int morn..i will try bag a canada for him!!!! 5.4.3.2.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 top man, good luck with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave1979 Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 jokin aside..i have just been westhoughton dogs..and 4 of the ###### flew rite over...cudda got um easy!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anser2 Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 (edited) So Mark what did you do with the dozen breeding Canada’s , Buried them in a hole like your pigeons perhaps because there is not going to be much of a feed on them at this time of year ? As for scaring geese there is nothing more easy if you know what you are doing and you do not need a shotgun to do it. I have lost count of the number of times I have moved them on with a bird scaring fireworks. As your quote "this could be said of any wildlife we shoot and is clutching at straws" . This is rubbish and any normal person would know it. Quote"Shooting permission comes with conditions just like our fac,s " Very true but if its wrong its up to you to tell your farmers or find a way around the problem instead of putting the sport into disrepute. Their are times when farmers have asked me to deal with problem birds and I taken down their bird bangers and put up flags \ flash harrys and regulary visited the fields to scare the birds off. Later when the breeding season is over then i will take the gun and sort the problem before it happens again next season by culling a few when the season starts, but not at this time of year. I have used such tactics for the past 15 years at my present reserve and they have worked every time. Quote "about time you wild fowlers got your heads from up your arises" No wildfowlers have respect about their quarry unlike some on here it seems. There is a time and place for everything and shooting geese when they are breeding is unnecessary and any skilled countryman can find an easy way to deal with problem geese without bringing our sport into disrepute. Just get real and think about the future of your and other shooters sport or in a few years we will all be hanging up our guns. Edited May 14, 2010 by anser2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 So Mark what did you do with the dozen breeding canadas , Burried them in a hole like your pigeons perhaps ? As for scaring geese there is nothing more easy if you know what you are doing and you do not need a shotgun to do it. no mate ,put em down for 2 litters of cubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave1979 Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 So Mark what did you do with the dozen breeding canadas , Burried them in a hole like your pigeons perhaps ? As for scaring geese there is nothing more easy if you know what you are doing and you do not need a shotgun to do it. then u are just passin the prob to someone else....iv people on here dont like the thought of something bein shot..i suggest u take up knitting and join a forum and discuss that!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 blah :good: :oops: :lol: :lol: :lo i am not a anti just sick of hearing, seeing about these act.s taking place Are you sure your on the right forum, only time you post it to moan about dead animals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albertan_J Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 Can't you all just get along Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Logic Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 Canada geese can be, and frequently are, a real menace. Not all situations all the use of bird scarers etc, and that is when the little blighters must be shot. One of my permissions is a horse yard, and they have a Canada goose problem in a big way, with massive amounts of birds eating the grass and then covering the place in ****. Any method other than frequent shooting is utterly impractical, as you can't use bird scarers around horses as they are prone to doing themselves harm trying to run away. While they don't like the crack of a rifle either, a 22 Hornet isn't very loud and I've yet to find a Canada goose that doesn't die when faced with a 35gr Vmax going rather quickly. My landowner on this yard is IMHO rightly of the opinion that Canada geese on her land are a shoot-on-sight species, so that is what happens. If they have young with them then they get shot too. I have other permissions where there are also Canada geese. I have not been asked to shoot those geese, and they are not causing a problem at the current time as their numbers are not significant. Therefore, they get left alone. It's all about context. Tbh, I don't enjoy shooting Canada geese. They are stupid birds so no enjoyment from a stalk, they are huge, so you can hit them no problem from, if needs be, a very long way away. When they're dead and you're rounding them up, they weigh a ton and I have to lug the little ******** a long way over gates and under electric fencing. However, I do need that permission for my ticket, and I do enjoy the rabbit and fox control I also carry out there, so I do as instructed. In return, I get the permission and all paperwork done for el Plod as and when I need, and if I need to fire off a load of ammo for zero or test then the landowner backs me all the way if the neighbours moan. All works for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scolopax Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 "i am not a anti just sick of hearing, seeing about these act.s taking place Are you sure your on the right forum, only time you post it to moan about dead animals. " Boyd an Anti!!!! I do not think Boyd could ever be called an anti, he has converted more than his fair share of live animals into dead animals. He just has the long term future of our sport at heart and like many other true hunters operates by a code of ethics which does not involve shooting geese during the breeding season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 (edited) like many other true hunters operates by a code of ethics which does not involve shooting geese during the breeding season. Not geese no, just foxes, rabbits, pigeons, crows, rooks, jays, magpies, hares, rats, mink, grey squizzers, jackdaws, cats (no doubt!), and muntjac obviously What did I say, oh yes double standards Edited May 14, 2010 by Paul223 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albob Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 blah that is the difference..in season..pest control..two different things.both are legal to do. season does not come into it in the case i have already stated. calling me(as i cannot speak for others)blood lust morons,then you go on to say this If you knew the amount of Quarry bird's and Animals i shoot "IN SEASON" i just dont brag about it...which is blood lust to and means you have shot a lot...double standard again. mixing season and pest control will not work out an answer on here. and i think it will go in circles between season and pest control. if it is done legally then let them get on with it. al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSS Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 blah Absolute pigeonwatch gold! That has to be the single most entertaining post I have ever read on a hunting and shooting forum! :good: Thanks for that stalkerboydy, you have made my day Are you sure your not an anti? As for the OP (this thread may just get zapped as it is going slightly off topic), I would love to supply you with a canada goose, but I just don't have the problem of them on any of my permissions. And yes, if the landowners asked, I would shoot canada geese and the young goslings, if they met the terms of the general license. I have no problem with shooting anything young or small. All the best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albertan_J Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 Hope this thread doesn't go its quite entertaining watching the argument go round in circles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 blah double standards then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazza Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 Absolute pigeonwatch gold! That has to be the single most entertaining post I have ever read on a hunting and shooting forum! :good: Thanks for that stalkerboydy, you have made my day Are you sure your not an anti? As for the OP (this thread may just get zapped as it is going slightly off topic), I would love to supply you with a canada goose, but I just don't have the problem of them on any of my permissions. And yes, if the landowners asked, I would shoot canada geese and the young goslings, if they met the terms of the general license. I have no problem with shooting anything young or small. All the best You have no problem shooting anything young or small. Your problem seems to be hitting it. As for calling stalkerboydy an anti, he's probably forgotten more about shooting/hunting than you already know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin g Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 Dear all, I am after a freshly taken canadian goose for a scout camp that is coming up shortly. Has anybody got opportunity to take one that I could pick up (I have freezer space) in the West Yorkshire area but it is required to be as fresh as possible. Thank you Uncle Stuffy Anyway, back to original post.. Sorry unclestuufy no canadas on my permissions. Have you got sorted or changed your mind now.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSS Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 You have no problem shooting anything young or small. Your problem seems to be hitting it. As for calling stalkerboydy an anti, he's probably forgotten more about shooting/hunting than you already know. Dazza... With all due respect, what the **** do you know? I can't belive your standing up for someone who is calling us all 'blood lust morons'. Am I missing something there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKD Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 This is a very interesting topic, and one I'm not getting involved in as I'm not qualified to [only into shooting/hunting etc for a few months ] Keep up the bickering though before this thread is edited or removed as it is very entertaining also, to see peoples views/opinions on this topic I have one question,,,, for the OP,,,,, Exactly what do you want this fresh canada goose carcass for Nobody else has asked this obvious Q all the best,,,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobt Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 Group hug? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albob Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 blah i like a sensible debate but,you are a strange one..next time you shoot anything,tell your kids that you shoot their parents,no difference and double standards yet again..yawn... is your name gordon? just for you then.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8qEQ6Gb0p0 al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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