Ozo Posted November 29, 2005 Report Share Posted November 29, 2005 Hey all, need some info. Just wandering if anyone knows the laws concerning hunting with a bow in the Republic of Ireland as im an avid bowyer and archery enthusiast and i would like to try my hand at bow hunting. Im aware that is illegal in the UK but i cant find much info concerning Eire, im from Northern Ireland and have no probs getting land to hunt on in the south which means i could nip down over the border. Think my natural instincts are calling out to me to go back to the ancient ways and try this :thumbs: sorry mods if ive posted in the wrong place, but thought this was the most appropiate! thanks in advance, Ozo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkshire Pudding Posted November 29, 2005 Report Share Posted November 29, 2005 (edited) Ozo Maybe this might help . A good friend of mine who is a lawyer once told me . "If you don't get caught , then you can't be doing anything wrong , the law only concerns those who are caught . By the way that'll cost you £40 , no hell seeing as it's you , that bit of advice will be free , here's my law firms address .... See you in a couple of weeks ." Never had to visit him at work , but i'll be seeing the fella on friday and it'll cost me a couple of quid all the best yis yp :thumbs: Remeber it's a blood shot , so you'll need a dog to track . Edited November 29, 2005 by Yorkshire Pudding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shore_shot Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 hi i would leave it to the yank,s i dont think it is humane and has no place in this part of the world never seen a clean outright kill yet with a bow we are in the 21st centrey are we not?:thumbs:??:D??? shore_shot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new to the flock Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 Sure Shot If you are looking to see a deeer fold up and drop dead in its tracks from an arrow it will not happen. Guns kill by kinetic energy and shock, bows kill by bleeding. A properly tuned bow will diliver an arrow through the ribs, passing through both lungs and or heart, and excit out the other ribs......in many cases completely as a pass through shot. I have witnessed on a number of occasions a deer continue to feed after this has happened, it being completely unaware that it has been shot. I have also witnessed a number of deer take off running at being shot with a arrow, most have piled up within 200 hundred yards. Yes there is the occassions...thankfully I have nt had any yet.....where a bad shot placement has you tracking an arrowed deer.....however happens to the rifle society aswell. If you are not interested in bow hunting that is fine ...but dont attack it as inhuman just because it kills in another way than what you are use to. In other parts of the world lurchers, ferrets, and hawking are all seen in that same light by people that are uninformed, or close minded. I do not attack your style of hunting please do not attack mine. Ozo If you find out that it is legal, and you have any questions on technique contact me and I will try to help you out. NTTF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kip270 Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 The Bow is one of the oldest tools in hunting. I do a lot of rifle shooting, and i also used to be a member of an archery club. I am now looking to take up bow hunting, and yes i know i will have to got to other countries to do it, but as long as you use the bow to your own limits, you will make the shot count. How many pigeons/pheasents/rabbits manage to keep on flying/running with a good dose of lead in them?:thumbs: Clean kills i think not. Don't judge a sport by something you may have seen, the person may of been shooting beyond their abilities. I have seen footage of bowhunters making sure kills, the animal going no more than a 100yards.. I have seen footage of rifle hunters where the animal has not dropped on the spot and have managed to run more than a 100yards............... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 I do not attack your style of hunting please do not attack mine. fair and good point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmick Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 i agree with yorkshire pudding.. Do what you want and dont get caught Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozo Posted November 30, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 hey thanks all for the replys, still havent found out the law regarding hunting with a bow. shore_shot Posted on Nov 30 2005, 09:37 AM hi i would leave it to the yank,s i dont think it is humane and has no place in this part of the world never seen a clean outright kill yet with a bow we are in the 21st centrey are we not?:thumbs:??:D??? shore_shot Surely u cant then say hunting with firearms are humane?? lets face it, havin put in hundreds of hrs of practice with a bow I could dispatch quarry alot more humanely than some of the randomers running about the countryside with shotguns and airrifles! And yes we are in the 21st century, but y do we hunt?? I for one hunt because it brings you back to 1 on 1 with nature, I enjoy just being there, it doesnt matter to me if i shoot anything or not! NTTF your help is very much appreciated, I think if it turns out 2 be legal to hunt I will hunt maybe some rabbits first to get the feel for it before I attempt a deer! Im consistently accurate with a bow on moving and stationary targets upto around 50yrds(well above hunting range) but i feel shooting live quarry would be a whole new ball game! Also as i said im a bowyer and the bow i have in mind for hunting with is an Ash selfbow, its drawing at around 55# @ 28", do you think it would be sufficient for this purpose or do i need something with a bit more power?(it shoots dam quick btw!) thanks Ozo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new to the flock Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 You need a minumum of 30 pounds for deer, so your bow is fine. The biggest thing that you can do to get ready is study deer anotomy from all angles and in 3d. Learn what vitals you will hit from differant shot placements, example elevated, quartering onwards, quartering away. The biggest mistake in bow hunting is thinking of your target in one dimension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 (edited) http://www.archery-interchange.com/ http://www.bowmen.org.uk/forum/forums/thre...tid=486&start=1 Edited November 30, 2005 by markbivvy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new to the flock Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 Ozo: How are you getting on mate? Have you started to shoot from an elevated platform yet, as this will change the way you think about your target. You are now forced to think in 3-D. NTTF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badsworth Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 Im aware that is illegal in the UK Is it? Says who? I'm not aware of any 'Archery Acts'. As wild animals are not covered by the current cruelty to animals legislation I cannot think of anything that prevents it. Badsworth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul in North Lincs. Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 I was under the imptession that it was illegal to shoot any animal with a bow in the UK, perhaps I am mistaken. Furthermore, I read a book with 'ye old english laws' in it. One stated that "every englishman should carry his bow and arrows on his person at all times!!!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sniper Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 Paul, No, you weren't mistaken. Sections 5 and 11 of the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981, deal specifically with the use of bows, explosives, bird lime, self locking snares etc. on wild animals. Bowhunting is prohibited over here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badsworth Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 Sections 5 and 11 of the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981, deal specifically with the use of bows, explosives, bird lime, self locking snares etc. on wild animals. Thankyou Sniper - I have now read the act and agree with you. I didn't know that! Good job I didn't use my bow to sort out Charlie! Now older and wiser............................... B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badsworth Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 Section 11 prohibits the use of self-locking snares, bows, explosives or use of live mammals or birds as decoys, for capture and killing of any wild animal. It also prohibits the use of traps, snares, nets, poisons, electrical devices, dazzling devices, automatic weapons, night shooting devices, gas or smoke for killing, injuring or taking animals listed on Schedule 6. The use of sound recordings as decoys and pursuit with mechanically propelled vehicles are also prohibited for animals on Schedule 6. This might help, or go to http://www.naturenet.net/law/wcagen.html B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikky Posted December 16, 2005 Report Share Posted December 16, 2005 ring...Robin Hood..Nottingham 44332211 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted December 17, 2005 Report Share Posted December 17, 2005 Ozo, The wildlife department, wont alow bows for deer hunting. Minimum caliber being .22-250 centerfire Rifle, down here in southern Ireland. All vermin can only be taken with shotguns and rifles. Bow hunting is frowned apon buy the wildlife department as far as i know. If in doubt, give them a ring on: Eire, 016472410 or 016472300. Hope this helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mr Pieman Posted January 2, 2006 Report Share Posted January 2, 2006 Lady Pieman hunts with a bow, it looks lovely in her long blonde hair :thumbs: :thumbs: B) B) PP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sniper Posted January 2, 2006 Report Share Posted January 2, 2006 I can picture it !!!!!!!!!!!! :thumbs: :thumbs: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman Posted January 2, 2006 Report Share Posted January 2, 2006 mr p been out with that loverly gun yet Lady Pieman hunts with a bow, it looks lovely in her long blonde hair keep it up u might get a purdey next :thumbs: :thumbs: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozo Posted January 11, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 (edited) hey all thanks for the posts, unfortunatley no hunting for me :< :< Thanks frank for that info. NTTF: im a bit dissapointed but im still practicing with my bows like hell, im in the middle of making a new ash selfbow, about 66 inches, im gonna back it with linen i think. il post sum pics when im finished. i experimented with some pieces of 100yo + pine, i thought that with the age of the wood and the fact that it had the straightest grain id ever saw it mite make an alrite fun bow, but i snapped it last nite lol, was all goin well, i brought it down to the last notch on the tiller and heard the sickenin sound i think i rushed the tillerin though and i should really have backed it. im hoping to go to america for a month or so at sometime this year so maybe il get a shot then if the seasons are right. As for thinking 3D im tryin, but it isnt just as easy as you would think, ive had a brainwave of gettin some cardboard sheets and build myself a 1:1 scale deer to practise shooting at to get my angles etc. right. Regards Andy Edit: well maybe it'll look more like a trogan horse :*) Edited January 11, 2006 by Ozo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
new to the flock Posted January 11, 2006 Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 Ozo I use a full size whitetail deer target for practicing. It is a comercial one made out of foam...cost around $100.00 dollars cdn so about 40 pounds plus shipping. Have made targets out of high density foam board ....(the kind that is used in the construction trade. Usually available from a building supply store, such as the blue 3M If you glue three together before cutting out your animal it gives you the thickness you need, and they will stop anything that you are shooting at it.).....I practice on the full size targets from a ladder stand that I have set up in the back yard Ever heard of a magazine called Primative Archer...covers boyer skills and usually a differant bow every month in the how to section....bamboo backed bows...bamboo horn bows,..... plains indian buffalo bows...horse bows....traditional English Yew long bow....traditional take down bows, excellant mag. Covers arrow making from scrath as well. And yes you have to hate that sound. I am collecting staves for a blue beech recurve bow and an Osage Orange long bow now. Hope to back the blue beech with a rattle snake skin. Should be pretty when finished. NTTF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatingisbest Posted February 3, 2006 Report Share Posted February 3, 2006 Sure Shot If you are looking to see a deeer fold up and drop dead in its tracks from an arrow it will not happen. Guns kill by kinetic energy and shock, bows kill by bleeding. A properly tuned bow will diliver an arrow through the ribs, passing through both lungs and or heart, and excit out the other ribs......in many cases completely as a pass through shot. I have witnessed on a number of occasions a deer continue to feed after this has happened, it being completely unaware that it has been shot. I have also witnessed a number of deer take off running at being shot with a arrow, most have piled up within 200 hundred yards. Yes there is the occassions...thankfully I have nt had any yet.....where a bad shot placement has you tracking an arrowed deer.....however happens to the rifle society aswell. If you are not interested in bow hunting that is fine ...but dont attack it as inhuman just because it kills in another way than what you are use to. In other parts of the world lurchers, ferrets, and hawking are all seen in that same light by people that are uninformed, or close minded. I do not attack your style of hunting please do not attack mine. Ozo If you find out that it is legal, and you have any questions on technique contact me and I will try to help you out. NTTF good point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatingisbest Posted February 3, 2006 Report Share Posted February 3, 2006 Ozo I use a full size whitetail deer target for practicing. It is a comercial one made out of foam...cost around $100.00 dollars cdn so about 40 pounds plus shipping. Have made targets out of high density foam board ....(the kind that is used in the construction trade. Usually available from a building supply store, such as the blue 3M If you glue three together before cutting out your animal it gives you the thickness you need, and they will stop anything that you are shooting at it.).....I practice on the full size targets from a ladder stand that I have set up in the back yard Ever heard of a magazine called Primative Archer...covers boyer skills and usually a differant bow every month in the how to section....bamboo backed bows...bamboo horn bows,..... plains indian buffalo bows...horse bows....traditional English Yew long bow....traditional take down bows, excellant mag. Covers arrow making from scrath as well. And yes you have to hate that sound. I am collecting staves for a blue beech recurve bow and an Osage Orange long bow now. Hope to back the blue beech with a rattle snake skin. Should be pretty when finished. NTTF do you use a compound or recurve? i expect a compound they hit harder and are mostly easier to use Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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