Jim Sarakun Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 Just saw this on MSN Today, so switched on to PW to get some views. What an amazing site this PW has become eh? Always get a good cross section of views on PW. As is well documented on here, I do like to see the Fox in our countryside and have received a good pasting on this site on more than one occasion airing my opinion. However, I do now stand unequivocally, on the side of the fence of those that cull them. I am curious though, how Foxes in the Cities can be controlled. Having a purge on them in the countryside, surely would not lower their numbers in the Cities. It is reported that Foxes travel 40 miles and more in a night in search of food. I doubt if this is the case in Cities, due to the abundance of food available to them. People feeding them for example. Shooting them would be out of the question, as would poisoning. There would probably be an uproar if traps were set, from local residents. My job at the moment takes me to the UK's docks on a night shift 5 nights a week. I see 4 or more Foxes every night, the more being at Purfleet Docks and Ellesmere Port. I wonder if any have come over on a boat. I often see 3 or more as I travel through Barking on my way to the M11. I see more in the Cities than I ever see whilst out in the countryside. This is probably obvious because a lot of you guys will be chasing them. I look forward to the evidence that these young girls were in fact attacked by a Fox and then how the problem will be addressed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 they've already trapped and despatched one, so really you can expect a slightly late reaction. All you can do is keep food away from them and trap and dispose of humanely not release in the countryside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlander Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 I think you'll find most urban foxes are just that. Especially in the larger cities they've been born and bred in an urban environment and know no difference. Having a 'purge' of them in the countryside will not help the towns it'll just deplete the numbers we have in the countryside and spoil our 'sport' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Sarakun Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 Should this be the tip of the iceberg and the problem become epidemic, will fox hunting with hounds be re-introduced I wonder. It is certainly going to draw attention to the number of Foxes in suburbia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 last time was 2002 so its a freak occurence and only happens in really warm weather as lets face it we don't leave our houses open for most of the year. Its unusual for them to attack unless cornered or injured as i'm sure a fair few on here have experienced Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignoel Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 i blame the dustbin men with there recyling plastic bins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boromir Posted June 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 they've already trapped and despatched one, so really you can expect a slightly late reaction. All you can do is keep food away from them and trap and dispose of humanely not release in the countryside. Say that to my younger brother, he thinks foxes only live in cities because they know they'll get shot in the countryside Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 I work at a power station and a big one at that, and due to the location and land type around it has a large bunny population!! and as both a result of this and the fact that their is always food available either from waste the contractors throw out or the actual feeding of the beggar's , it also has a VERY large fox population, these foxes whilst being aware of you will walk past you brazen as, some will also allow you to hand feed them, I have seen lads buy a pie and warm it up just to give it to a fox!!! Anyway they have ended up getting so numerous they are now causing health scares (one puked up in a mess room and the cleaners quite rightly refused to clean it up) so they are now being trapped., so it seems that the daft **** who want to see them only end up seeing them topped. KW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad93 Posted June 7, 2010 Report Share Posted June 7, 2010 this article just come up on BBC: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/10251349.stm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardo Posted June 8, 2010 Report Share Posted June 8, 2010 i did notice that all the article still say "apparently" mauled by a fox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_seagrave Posted June 8, 2010 Report Share Posted June 8, 2010 smells like a cover up to me . family dog bite more like , 9 months is fairly large for a fox. Just heard this on the news, like someone else has already said sounds like a cover up for a dog or something? someone has to say this no way would a fox do this bet the parents were on the **** when their pitbullx was looking after the kids stoke newington even the pitbulls walk around in pairs there,smells like bs to me. i did notice that all the article still say "apparently" mauled by a fox. Spot on, Mr. Moderator Beardo. :yp: LS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted June 8, 2010 Report Share Posted June 8, 2010 On an article that I watched this morning the mother was reported as saying that when she entered the room a fox was cowering in the corner of the room, and that she shooed it away. webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted June 8, 2010 Report Share Posted June 8, 2010 yup and no mention they had a dog as that would probably have stopped the fox coming into the house. Its sad people can never believe anyone in this case they had a pretty secure garden and left the back door open not expecting this to happen. Its not the first time in London and no doubt won't be the last Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardo Posted June 11, 2010 Report Share Posted June 11, 2010 i was thumbing through a copy of the Mail (it was the only paper on the counter of the takeaway) and saw that the ambulance crew had taken a photo of the fox through the window with his mobile phone! it was still lurking around in the garden when they got there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchieboy Posted June 11, 2010 Report Share Posted June 11, 2010 (edited) yup and no mention they had a dog as that would probably have stopped the fox coming into the house. Its sad people can never believe anyone in this case they had a pretty secure garden and left the back door open not expecting this to happen. Its not the first time in London and no doubt won't be the last Isn't it rather sad that even with the available "evidence" there are still people (Even members of this forum) that still wanted to put the blame on a dog, (And even worse still some that tried to question or apportion blame on the parents questioning where they were at the time) one or two even hinting that it might have been the family's own dog (Even though it has not even been reported that they even have one). OK some dogs on some occasions have attacked and severely injured childred and adults (And in some cases killed them) but you can not keep using the dog as a "scape goat". Accept the facts, foxes are capable of attacking people, there is enough "proof" of this happening and not just once but on many occasions so stop trying to palm the blame off on dogs or irresponsible parenting by saying things like "Sounds more like a dog to me" and things like "This smells of a cover up for a dog attack" or "Where were the parents, down at the pub" or "If the parents were about the fox would not have entered the house". It's high time some people got real! Not all dogs attack children and not all parents are bad parents who spend their lives down at the pub! This happened, it was a fox, accept it and (Those of you that do) stop trying to pass the buck every time something like this happens! Edit: On the ten o'clock news tonight they have said that no less than 4 foxes have been captured in the back garden of the house where the attack happened since Saturday. They also showed litle baby Lola and her injuries when she left hospital - it certainly looks like it was not just a "defencive nip" from the fox and her sister Isabelle suffered even more severe injuries. Heraven alone knows how terrifying it must have been for those two little girls! Edited June 11, 2010 by Frenchieboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted June 11, 2010 Report Share Posted June 11, 2010 The children were attacked - I don't think anyone is questioning that - unless someone wants to get really silly. The mother saw the fox in the room, ambulance men took a photo of one hanging around. Despite all this, Brian May and the odd person on here is casting grave doubt about whether their parents are lying. Have the medical people said these bites are not consistent with the parents account? Have the Police said there were suspicious circumstances? NO. Despite the commotion with the children, ambulance crew arriving - a fox just happened to be passing by to see what the fuss was about - do me a favour. On what basis does anyone have to dispute what they are saying? It's as bad as that absolute idiot May speaking about things without a brain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted June 11, 2010 Report Share Posted June 11, 2010 Just read that Brian May is now back tracking. Perhaps his agent has been telling him about public relations disasters and the effect on sales of poor records. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchieboy Posted June 11, 2010 Report Share Posted June 11, 2010 Just heard on this eveniongs news - One of the little girls has been allowed home but the other remains in hospital - Not for too much longer we hope! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted June 13, 2010 Report Share Posted June 13, 2010 and the most recent news they are under police protection as they've been threatend by anti's, due to having the foxes destroyed, *** what is the world coming to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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