mad1 Posted August 11, 2010 Report Share Posted August 11, 2010 hope you can help on my new permission where i control the pigeons i have been asked by land owner to sort the foxs out if i see them too . Problem is havin not shot them what would be the max distance you would shoot at for a ethical kill also what cart would you use i currently use game bore 32 g no 6 where would i be trying to hit . I know this must have been asked before but i dont want to lose my new permission to a injured animal runnin away i have no problem shootin them but any hints or tips would be gratefully rec Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alanl50 Posted August 11, 2010 Report Share Posted August 11, 2010 I use 34g or 36g number "4" shot for foxes yes can use number "6" shot but I personally believe 4's are better suited, they are much heavier hitting, no point in wounding the animal, some dog foxes can be big lads so bigger the better, and check your distance before firing. Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted August 11, 2010 Report Share Posted August 11, 2010 Why not take this prime opportunity to put in for your FAC? Land+foxes = Rifle. Anything bigger than AAA will do the job nicely. I used to use SG, which is 9 lumps of lead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad1 Posted August 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2010 Why not take this prime opportunity to put in for your FAC? Land+foxes = Rifle. Anything bigger than AAA will do the job nicely. I used to use SG, which is 9 lumps of lead. i am going to apply but have been told to wait 6 month as i have only had my sgc about a month Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxbuster Posted August 11, 2010 Report Share Posted August 11, 2010 BB's are perfect for knocking 'charlie' over Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad1 Posted August 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2010 thanks for that where is the best place to aim for head or chest and what is the best distance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver pigeon 3 Posted August 11, 2010 Report Share Posted August 11, 2010 I use 50 grams of number 1 shot, they do the job nicely. I try to take the shots when they are within 30 yards with a gun with at least half choke. As for shot placement it depends how they present thereselves, obviously head on shoot straight at them but with one which is broadside to you aim for the neck area, as due to the spread of the shot this should make contact with the head/neck & chest. Just remember that if the fox is on the move you must give it the required lead (as you would a clay/pigeon) otherwise you will miss it or even worse hit it in the back legs. Another point if you at all unsure of the safety of the shot dont take it, as the larger shot travels quite a distance. best of luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeonblasterian Posted August 11, 2010 Report Share Posted August 11, 2010 I sometimes carry some cheddite 100 metre 35g no 4s when going pigeon shooting.Especially if i am going for a walk round and not setting the hide up.Though watch where you fire them as they do have a bit of extra power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted August 11, 2010 Report Share Posted August 11, 2010 2 threads on the same subject, heres my answer on the other You'll need shot size 3 or bigger, myself i prefer either 1's or bb's, not much point in going bigger than say AAA, a heavy load so 36 to 40 grams, get the foxes in as close as poss, within 30 yards will work well Also make sure your gun is up to firing heavy loads ask if your not sure no point in using bigger than AAA, SG is way way to big, you won't gain any range by using them and the pattern is more than useless with fox size holes in it, at 30 yards anything that 9 pieces of SG might do if you connect, BB will do, but without 9 pieces of 3 1/2 grams of lead bouncing around No6 is not suitable, neither is 5 or 4, unless your in real close, just keep a couple of 36grams of bb in your top pocket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lez325 Posted August 11, 2010 Report Share Posted August 11, 2010 36g BB's is what I have in my pocket- not come close enough to use them yet- but as said they do what it says on the tin Les I prefer my 222 for Charlie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted August 11, 2010 Report Share Posted August 11, 2010 I shoot driven foxes with hounds very often and also at shorter range back up to a rifle shooter on the lamp. BB's are the best no1 might do better in more open chokes but it all depends on which gun and which cartridge. No4's are not good enough on penetration, generally 6's and the likes are useable only at very ,very short ranges. No1 and BB will stop Charlie at normal shotgun range the best target is the boiler room not the head and avoid going away shots if possible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted August 11, 2010 Report Share Posted August 11, 2010 I've shot them with most between 7.5 clay loads and 1's. The lightest load was at 10 yards and was very dead first barrel, was expecting close range squirrels on a vermin day hence using what was in the gun at the time. Your 32g 6's will work fine if you come across one close enough and that is 15-20 yards max much beyond that you want larger shot but what you'll find is charlie always turns up when you least expect so keeping still and getting a decent shot is more important than anything else. Going out to 30-40 yards isn't really shotgun territory unless you have to even then the heavier shot will struggle to knock down cleanly. As for SSG's I would do everything not to ever use them again, having had to use them on driven muntjac years ago they kill very well but ricochet badly off trees and the pattern is useless. See if anyone local with an FAC is able to help out would be my advice nothing worse than trying to find wounded foxes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted August 11, 2010 Report Share Posted August 11, 2010 Why don`t we start at the beginning, has your gun got a 3" chamber ? If so 50+grams of 1`s or BB`s. If 2 3/4" you will have to try to get the fox under 30yds and use the heaviest load of 1`s or 3`s you can get(36-42gm). If you have a 2 1/2" chamber get someone else to shoot it. If you have 3 1/2" chambers then lucky you.....unlucky fox ! Is your gun a multi choke ? If so are you confident of shooting with full choke in ? Are you confident at shooting a static target at 40yds (30yds) ? A moving target at 40yds (30yds) ? Remember you don`t aim a shotgun. Also it may shoot high, so shooting low(halfway down the leg) may be necessary and dependant on if it is facing or crossing you ! Find out how your gun/cartridge and range affect the shot pattern. Finally, don`t go above BB`s unless you have a 3 1/2" chambered 12 bore or a larger bore shotgun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Imperfection Posted August 11, 2010 Report Share Posted August 11, 2010 Damn thats a universal cartridge you've got there MC. :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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