suggs Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 me i just tend to stick with IC and M (1/4 and 1/2) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 1/4 and 1/4 for me. I very rarely change them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickmep Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 always messing with them. mainly shoot sporting and use skeet or 1/4 most time. occasionally will put in 1/2. cant remember the last time i used anything tighter than 1/2. unless i'm using the pump or extrema which havnt got extended chokes, then i'll stick 1/4 in and use it for everything. .............cant be ars*d to get the key out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suggs Posted September 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 always messing with them. mainly shoot sporting and use skeet or 1/4 most time. occasionally will put in 1/2. cant remember the last time i used anything tighter than 1/2. unless i'm using the pump or extrema which havnt got extended chokes, then i'll stick 1/4 in and use it for everything. .............cant be ars*d to get the key out. how do you find the 1/4 on the far out clays ?, may try 1/4 and 1/4 next time out.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenG Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 Skeet/quarter for virtually everything. Nice extended Rhino 3/8 choke for single barrel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 Plastic or fibre wad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickmep Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 how do you find the 1/4 on the far out clays ?, may try 1/4 and 1/4 next time out.. get on with it pretty well. just got a 3/8 briley for the 391 which i've been using and like, although i haven't patterned it yet. had a read of a good article on chokes, think it was on basc site linked from a thread here about patterning of chokes and there was (in the tests conducted) very little difference between 1/4 and 1/2 3/4 full. one of the guys i go with uses open skeet and cylinder for pretty much everything on sporting and he breaks stuff just fine. most grounds i go to are fibre only so only buy fibre, cant be bothered to buy different ones just get 1000 of whatever fibre the local guy has at a reasonable cost, anything except claybusters, club has them as club cartridges and there are too many confetti cartridges in them for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COACH Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 I use 1/4 + 1/4 or I/C + I/C all the time for Sporting/Skeet and Pheasant/Pigeon shooting. This video may help you understand why a 21gram cartridge kills so well at distance with an open choke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beretta Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 is he saying that the choke 'tightens from 30yds to 35 yds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 is he saying that the choke 'tightens from 30yds to 35 yds. Certainly looks like it He's got a Krieghoff vest on so he MUST know what he's talking about It certainly convinced me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COACH Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 It`s interesting that isn`t it ? I`v been hitting targets crossing at 50/60 yards very hard with 21g Comp X in fibre for a long time now using only I/C choke. Seeing is believing, have a go . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Potter Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 (edited) The subject of choke is a minefield in my humble opinion. I think the subject is treated quite differently by the two types of clay shooters, sporting and trap/skeet. Sporting shooters don't tend to go all scientific about choke & ballistics, they tend to fall into three camps, 3/4 & full, 1/4 & 1/4 or 1/4 & half and twiddlers (change chokes for every stand). The interesting thing is that it's very rare that sporting shooters change, if they are 3/4 & full they are convinced they are right and that us 1/4 & 1/4 and the twiddlers shooters are fools. The obvious truth is that 1/4 & 3/8 is the only correct choking for all sporting shooting and that the twiddler's and tight chokers are deluding themselves To be fair though I think that the real top shots generally shoot with tighter chokes but the old adage of 100 chippy kills are better than 99 balls of dust is more relevant for the, shall we say, less well talented than GD or RF. Trap & skeet shooters, especially Americans, can appear to be obsessed with chokes, patterns & ballistics. As I have not had a lobotomy and still have a fully functioning bladder I don't shoot these disciplines (sorry JonD & philR - only joking ) I can't comment on the whys & wherefores of the reasoning behind their obsession Going back to my personal view, obviously I think I'm right in that 1/4 & 3/8 using English shot size 8 and 7's for the very long (+40m) stuff. So other than changing shot size for one or two targets per competition all my concentration is going into where to point the gun and that's what kills clays, pointing the barrels in the right direction. We of lesser ability than the aforementioned GD & RF need all the odds on our side and using tight chokes, small loads and large shot sizes is not, in my humble opinion, a recipe for success. I'm absolutely sure if you gave GD 28" barrels, cyl. & cyl (or full & full) with 21g 6's (or 9's) he would still beat me, he might only score 94 not 98 but you can't buy natural ability. Mr Potter Edited September 16, 2010 by Mr Potter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
humperdingle Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 (edited) Used to mess about changing chokes, blaming them instead of me when I missed... I just shove a 1/2 into the Beretta and leave it in there. Edited September 16, 2010 by humperdingle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilR Posted September 17, 2010 Report Share Posted September 17, 2010 Trap & skeet shooters, especially Americans, can appear to be obsessed with chokes, patterns & ballistics. As I have not had a lobotomy and still have a fully functioning bladder I don't shoot these disciplines (sorry JonD & philR - only joking ) I can't comment on the whys & wherefores of the reasoning behind their obsession Mr Potter Well Mr P (with a name like that you should have bladder problems ) I'm not obsessed by tight chokes for shooting ABT, UT and OT, my Perazzi is 1/2 & 3/4 and when I had my previous one that had a bottom barrel with adjustable choke I found that Perazzi's no 4 choke, just under half choke, was good enough. I stick with one cartridge Eley Superbs and shoot 7.5 in this country and up them to 7s when shooting abroad to give a bit more striking energy on clays that may be manufactured harder than those used here. I did see an increase in my wife's second barrel kills when we had her top choke opened up to 3/4 too, other friends who have gone down this route have noticed this too. I would recommend having the actual choking constriction measured against the barrel diameter by a competent gunsmith to see exactly what you've got. My Perazzi which was supposedly 3/4 and full but when measured was 35 and 44 thou of choke which equates to midway between 1/2 and full and extra full and when given to Nigel Teague to check the patterns was actually blowing them with the second barrel, a little work by him relieving the chokes made the world of difference instead of having balls of soot or a miss the kills were much more consistent with lots of pieces broken each time. My 20b game gun is 1/4 and 1/2 out of the box and I haven't checked the exact measurements and last season I had my most successful season. My Winchester 23 sbs has been gradually opened up to 1/4 and 1/2 and I'm happy with that too. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted September 17, 2010 Report Share Posted September 17, 2010 Im in the 1/4 & 1/4 camp for everything except trap then go 1/2 & 3/4..... I use 24g 8s for everything 99% of the time I will go to 21g 7 1/2s when i can get them if shooting a lot of clays in a day....(shoulder/back problem) My sxs for game is choked 1/4 & full.......30g 6s shaun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted September 17, 2010 Report Share Posted September 17, 2010 i`ve just bought a cheap cyl set, for the o/u. i usually shoot 1/2 and 3/4 ! my pump is changed regularly due to the extreme varied diet it has. my sxs is 1/2 and 1/1, but actually is near or exceeds 3/4 and extre-full. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulos Posted September 17, 2010 Report Share Posted September 17, 2010 I use 1/4 and 3/8 for most of my sporting shooting and have started using it for skeet as well recently as the slightly better kills are more reassuring. I am not too proud to twiddle with them if need be though, but I rarely use more than half. 1/2 and 3/4 for tarp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunnykiller Posted September 17, 2010 Report Share Posted September 17, 2010 Im in the 1/4 & 1/4 camp for everything except trap then go 1/2 & 3/4..... I use 24g 8s for everything 99% of the time I will go to 21g 7 1/2s when i can get them if shooting a lot of clays in a day....(shoulder/back problem) My sxs for game is choked 1/4 & full.......30g 6s shaun HAHAHA Twiddle twiddle Shaun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman Posted September 17, 2010 Report Share Posted September 17, 2010 Plastic 1/4- 1/4 fibre 1/4 - 1/2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyR Posted September 17, 2010 Report Share Posted September 17, 2010 Shot one of the school guns at my local place on Weds. It is bored cyl and cyl. Shooting my usual 28g 8shot I cleared a 40 ex 50, which is about as good as it gets for me. There were some 40 yd targets but many more closer than that. For clays, as others have said, if you want to smoke them use 1/2 or even 3/4 but I am not convinced you will break anynore. Jon, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted September 18, 2010 Report Share Posted September 18, 2010 HAHAHA Twiddle twiddleShaun I never twiddled last week, unlike the twiddling pair of Jimmy and Dave..... And for this week it will be my trusty 303 with half choke for trap (its the only way i can hit our stupidly hard ABT shaun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suggs Posted September 18, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2010 switched to IC-IC today and scores went up :unsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSPUK Posted September 20, 2010 Report Share Posted September 20, 2010 1/2 for me as I can't be bothered carrying a spare barrel - But I have just bought a 391 and first choke I put in was 1/2 Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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