Do shotgun cabinets have to be flush?

[Algiz]

I’m looking at getting a shotgun certificate, but I’m unsure on cabinet position, the best place i can think of is in the bedroom, with the cabinet being housed in the fitted wardrobe.

 

Behind the wardrobe however there is about a 2 inches gap from the wall (as in the picture)

 

Would they be happy if I ran the bolts though the back of the wardrobe, then into the wall? Or must the cabinet be flush?

 

[stevethevanman]

They might think about it for a second, but to tell you the truth it will probably depend on the man on the day

 

However the advantage of flush cabinets/boxes is that tools are harder to get in behind it and pry with..also, holding it's main structure in a wardrobe might not be too good. If I was taking your cabinet the first thing I would do is destroy the wardrobe, and then slice the bolts holding it to the wall if they were accessible ...and then open the cabinet else where :blink:

 

Thats the main advantage of having a cabinet flush with a solid structure, its's fixings cant be got at!

 

Steve

Edited September 20, 2010 by stevethevanman

[Billy.]

If it has to go in the wardrobe and it's not too expensive, I'd cut a cabinet shaped hole out the back of the wardrobe and set it in.

 

Either way, the wardrobe isn't going anywhere fast.

[coneyhunter]

I’m looking at getting a shotgun certificate, but I’m unsure on cabinet position, the best place i can think of is in the bedroom, with the cabinet being housed in the fitted wardrobe.

 

Behind the wardrobe however there is about a 2 inches gap from the wall (as in the picture)

 

Would they be happy if I ran the bolts though the back of the wardrobe, then into the wall? Or must the cabinet be flush?

 

 

 

hey there,

i think the police may take into account that perhaps a jemmying device ( crowbar etc) may be able to be put behind the cabinet and it could possibly ( although very unlikely) be puled down. Also when the police do a house inspection they often like to pull on the cabinet to check how stable it is.

[Andy H]

Make a frame out of 2" battens then put behind the wardrobe before bolting down and you will not have a 2" gap.

[killer_pigeon]

as long as you use them anchor bolts and they go into the brick and th safe doesnt move you will be fine

[DSPUK]

I put my cabinet in wardrobe - drew round it and cut back out - slide it to wall and bolt on. -- When he came to look at it I said ain't you going to jump on it? Will it come off?? No -- no point in jumping on it - he was quite happy because it was hidden and I have wardrobe door wired to main alarm box.

 

Dave

[al4x]

just find a sheet of ply the size of the gap and put it on the wall before the wardrobe and fix as normal. Its purely to stop it being jemmied off the wall

[Essex Keeper]

just find a sheet of ply the size of the gap and put it on the wall before the wardrobe and fix as normal. Its purely to stop it being jemmied off the wall

:blink:

[TJ91]

my cabinet isnt flush but got it passed the other day

 

so long as it dont move and got some good anchor bolts it should be fine

 

but as said above, depends on the mood of the man on the day!

[Dave 101]

Hi

The other thing to think of is the weight of the cabinet and the guns , if you dont secure it tight to the wall the weight is hanging on the bolts and being transfered down to whatever its standing on , a sheet of 15mm chipboard will soon bend .

 

Dave

[Cosmicblue]

My FAO (Warwickshire) was very clear about this - no gap. He told me about a chap's cabinet that was butted up against a skirting board , and bolted to the wall with a 1/2" gap - it was rejected. Ideal position is mounted in the corner of a intenal room - out of direct line of sight from either doors or windows and with the cabinet hinges nearest the corner so as to make it as difficult as possible to attack.

 

I carefully cut the skirting boards in situ and bolted mine to the wall using Excalibur screw bolts - about a £1 each and absolutely no drama to install even into ash blocks. The FAO said it was an exceptionally neat job and was impressed with just how firmly the cabinet was attached - it didn't even creak when he tried to get it off the wall - he asked if I had glued it as well.....err no.....

[Algiz]

Thanks for all the feedback

 

I reckon to be on the safe side I will have a think about any other places a cabinet could go, then if needs must it looks like I will have to cut a hole.

 

Good point on the chipboard Dave, may be best to remove the floor in the wardrobe then add a plywood block.

[Dave 101]

Thanks for all the feedback

 

I reckon to be on the safe side I will have a think about any other places a cabinet could go, then if needs must it looks like I will have to cut a hole.

 

Good point on the chipboard Dave, may be best to remove the floor in the wardrobe then add a plywood block.

 

 

No need to remove the base of the wardrobe provided the cabinet is bolted directly and firmly to the wall as the weight is then carried by the bolts .

 

Dave

[tigger]

My FAO (Warwickshire) was very clear about this - no gap. He told me about a chap's cabinet that was butted up against a skirting board , and bolted to the wall with a 1/2" gap - it was rejected. Ideal position is mounted in the corner of a intenal room - out of direct line of sight from either doors or windows and with the cabinet hinges nearest the corner so as to make it as difficult as possible to attack.

 

I carefully cut the skirting boards in situ and bolted mine to the wall using Excalibur screw bolts - about a £1 each and absolutely no drama to install even into ash blocks. The FAO said it was an exceptionally neat job and was impressed with just how firmly the cabinet was attached - it didn't even creak when he tried to get it off the wall - he asked if I had glued it as well.....err no.....

 

My FLO said the exact same thing to me no gap behind the cabinet to stop bars jacks etc being used