edr Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 Even though he was poaching, which he shouldn't have been, surely this type of violent reaction shouldn't happen from anyone that is deemed suitable to hold a sgc/firearms? If you were caught drink driving both you and your suitability to hold firearms would be questioned? EDR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 farmers my way get more stole/grief from shooters than they do from dogmen and lampers driving round back roads shooting into fields that they have no right to and leaving dead foxes and also badgers laying in the fields before driving off so when your poaching you take your dead foxes and badgers home then, and never lamp of the road.?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulf Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 lets be realistic,none of us even have the facts. This sort of story is invariably embellished in the telling and even if completely true the above still stands. However as described I would side with the framer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveK Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 lets be realistic,none of us even have the facts. Lets be realistic again. We know it happens and we know why it happens and in a lot of cases we support that reason but why do we feel the need to bring it out into the public domain? Give it 12 months of police cutbacks and there'll be more of it and not just in rural areas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeyboots Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 so when your poaching you take your dead foxes and badgers home then, and never lamp of the road.?? when i used to lamp FOXES with lurchers the dead 1s where threw into the hedgerow or below a clump of whins and i NEVER EVER KILLED BADGERS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JR1960 Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 A few too many Rambo's on here sometimes. Only sometimes...........? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heilan Coo Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 My mistake and i apolagise I thought it said he got his arm broke Sorry mate should have read the thread properly No probs mate, and no need for the apology either, tis all cool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulf Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 Lets be realistic again. We know it happens and we know why it happens and in a lot of cases we support that reason but why do we feel the need to bring it out into the public domain? Give it 12 months of police cutbacks and there'll be more of it and not just in rural areas. True Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heilan Coo Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 All this talk is getting us nowhere, only way to sort this out is... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 farmers my way get more stole/grief from shooters than they do from dogmen and lampers driving round back roads shooting into fields that they have no right to and leaving dead foxes and also badgers laying in the fields before driving off we're the opposite dogmen are generally ****** round us and why should they be able to get away with poaching wildlife with no permission etc. We had a keeper on the estate I live on who used to dish out the odd hiding and was known to ram their vehicles, moved to Scotland under a very dark cloud when a mate of his took the fall for breaking someones arm rather than him loose his FAC etc and job. However they didn't come back which sort of shows the approach works. OTH coming home from lamping a few weeks back really windy night spotted a guy unloading a lurcher and about to walk up a footpath now thats trying to look legal but definitely poaching. I just rang the keeper on that estate and they had a word but its sadly a way of the country now people having no respect for other peoples land or boundaries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swiss.tony Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 (edited) Ill put my 2 pence worth in to the thread . many many moons ago a mate of mine who i use to go out with but no more since i went legal lol got caught by 4 keepers all with NV goggles he got too pick shoot his dogs or take a good kicking he went with the later . Like he said better than dead dogs but was in hospital 1 week with broken ribs im so glad i let him down that night by working thank god so i can see it from both sides we never went stealing, robbing pheasants , all the stuff wat go s on now a days . All we did was kill bunnys but now were legall so it dont matter Edited October 6, 2010 by swiss.tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nipper Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 Ill put my 2 pence worth in to the thread . many many moons ago a mate of mine who i use to go out with but no more since i went legal lol got caught by 4 keepers all with NV goggles he got too pick shoot his dogs or take a good kicking he went with the later . Like he said better than dead dogs but was in hospital 1 week with broken ribs im so glad i let him down that night by working thank god so i can see it from both sides we never went stealing, robbing pheasants , all the stuff wat go s on now a days . All we did was kill bunnys .............. but now were legall so it dont matter ................. What would you do now if you found someone on your "LEGAL" ground ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 or in your front room removing your telly as personally there is no real difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixer1 Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 or in your front room removing your telly as personally there is no real difference. Agree, it's stealing....no different... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonno 357 Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 Its part of lifes big learning curve getting a beating. Its character building and when he is out of hospital he will appreciate that ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackpowder Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 As I see it both parties are in the wrong, one for trespassing and the second for assault and in a fair country both should be subject to the due process of law. Yes it is easy to talk, but we do not know what problems the farmer in question has had in the past with theft and trespass, so passing judgement with evidence by hearsay id totally unproductive. Blackpowder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddan Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 talking to a guy today in wholesalers his m8 got a right beating over the weekend he was lamping on farmers land with out permission, i agree with all those who said he should have not been there ,but still wrong the farmers sons (2) put him in hospital and took the air rifle of him could they be in trouble for theft of a weapon I would take a good beating rather than x years being some huge black mans bitch any day of the week. If he was my mate I would tell him to take round a bottle of scotch and thank the guy as well. Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxman2 Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 (edited) As I see it both parties are in the wrong, one for trespassing and the second for assault and in a fair country both should be subject to the due process of law. Yes it is easy to talk, but we do not know what problems the farmer in question has had in the past with theft and trespass, so passing judgement with evidence by hearsay id totally unproductive. Blackpowder i will wager not many, they seem to have a balanced deterent. Edited October 6, 2010 by manxman2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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