17 hmr not sure what to make of it ...

[welsh warrior]

so been shooting yesterday to zero in and its bang on now but i was shooting at 125 yds and it was busting through a inch thick plank of wood ..so i was thinking could it do that at say 200 yds? im not sure whats its effective range is ... becuase im sure it could take rabbits at 200 right ? taking in mind the wind drop etc ...

[12borejimbo]

I have taken many rabbits at the 200 yard range, you have to aim about 6-8 inches high, I took a fox cub at 200 too, right in the neck, night night, it is a very good round, but useless on windy day! Bullets are too light and get blown everywhere.

The keeper slated me for it saying i had bought a boys gun, but he likes it so its ok.

I wouldnt sell mine and love it to pieces!

Hope you get on ok with it, what have you bought?

[Billy.]

Try shooting a £1 coin at 50 yards

[welsh warrior]

Try shooting a £1 coin at 50 yards

 

 

to easy lol

[eddoakley]

Try shooting a £1 coin at 50 yards

 

 

when its laid flat!!

Edd

[Billy.]

to easy lol

 

That's not what I mean.

 

It'll punch a hole straight through it.

[tweedledee]

i use both 22lr and hmr.honest truth the lr is near redundant as i lift the hmr for longer shots.never really use a rifle on windy days so it suits me ok. great wee round if you can keep inside its capabilities.

[Billy.]

i use both 22lr and hmr.honest truth the lr is near redundant as i lift the hmr for longer shots.never really use a rifle on windy days so it suits me ok. great wee round if you can keep inside its capabilities.

 

I way prefer the LR over the HMR. I'm not saying the HMR is bad, it's just that I prefer the old faithful LR.

[paul99]

Try shooting a £1 coin at 50 yards

 

I was too tight to use a £1 coin but have a pic of a 2p at around 70 yds:

 

The bullet kept going through the 3/4" ply backing I had attached to also.

PS. The hole was slightly low but perfectly centered - the result of zeroing at 120yds and aiming straight at the coin.

 

As for 200yd shots I have no doubt that it's easily possible provided your steady enough - 150yds has been my self imposed limit so far but thats due to my shooting not the capability of the round.

Edited October 24, 2010 by paul99

[Frenchieboy]

Try shooting a £1 coin at 50 yards

 

Do you mean something like this? This is the result of hitting a 20 pence piece at 100 yards using a 17 HMR with Hornady V-Max 17gr Red Tips.

I have no trouble using a 17HMR to take rabbits at 150 yards with head shots - This usually result in the rabbit losing a large part of it's head - Far too messy to show a photograph of but very humane I can assure you!

I have no doubt that the 17HMR is well capable of humanely taking vermin out at much longer ranges but just like Paul99 I restrict myself according to my abilities and confidence rather than "chance" leaving live quarry wounded!

And I'm far too hard up to be able to afford destroying £1.00 coins so any donations would be gratefully received thanks!

Edited October 24, 2010 by Frenchieboy

[Billy.]

Haha, I only did it once with a pound coin. I'm sure I've thrown away tens of thousands down the pub, so a wasted pound was actually worth it.

 

The look on my face when I found the pound coin. It was well worth it

[Lez325]

Do you mean something like this? This is the result of hitting a 20 pence piece at 100 yards using a 17 HMR with Hornady V-Max 17gr Red Tips.

I have no trouble using a 17HMR to take rabbits at 150 yards with head shots - This usually result in the rabbit losing a large part of it's head - Far too messy to show a photograph of but very humane I can assure you!

I have no doubt that the 17HMR is well capable of humanely taking vermin out at much longer ranges but just like Paul99 I restrict myself according to my abilities and confidence rather than "chance" leaving live quarry wounded!

And I'm far too hard up to be able to afford destroying £1.00 coins so any donations would be gratefully received thanks!

 

 

I'll send ypou a replacement 20p Frenchie

 

Les B)

[deejay]

So ok ,thats pretty impressive for the .17hmr ,but what sort of range are we taling about for a .22 lr .

Thanks Darren

[Billy.]

So ok ,thats pretty impressive for the .17hmr ,but what sort of range are we taling about for a .22 lr .

Thanks Darren

 

Mine's zeroed at 65. The best range to get the tightest PBR.

 

You can hit rabbits out to 150 yards with the LR, but I don't see the point.

[Dekers]

I think you can still get thrown in the Tower of London for deliberately defacing a coin of the realm! B)

[deejay]

Mine's zeroed at 65. The best range to get the tightest PBR.

 

You can hit rabbits out to 150 yards with the LR, but I don't see the point.

Thanks for that Billy ,but why not use a .22 for the 150 yard shots would that leave little left of the rabbit .

[Frenchieboy]

I think you can still get thrown in the Tower of London for deliberately defacing a coin of the realm! B)

 

 

Here we go!!!!!!!!

I didn't "deliberately" deface the coin! I was using it as a marker but I don't usually expect to be able to hit a bran door with a sledge hammer!

[hyflier]

I recall someone describing the 17HMR round as a "laser guided bunny seeking missile" and so it is If used within the capabilities of the ammunition.

 

I also have a .22lr which I mainly use for lamping and shooting where the noise needs to be reduced. That's really the only downside to the HMR it is a noisy little devil even with a mod fitted.

[the running man]

All rested I take it lads? Think u can head shot a hare at 150 yrds free standing? Unsupported?

[Dekers]

I think you can still get thrown in the Tower of London for deliberately defacing a coin of the realm!

 

 

Here we go!!!!!!!!

I didn't "deliberately" deface the coin! I was using it as a marker but I don't usually expect to be able to hit a bran door with a sledge hammer!

 

 

Ha Ha...tell that to the executioner when he is about to swing the axe! B)

[Billy.]

Thanks for that Billy ,but why not use a .22 for the 150 yard shots would that leave little left of the rabbit .

 

You've clearly never fired a .22LR at a live target

 

They're a very clean round, which will cause minimal meat damage. Still hard hitting, but when you're shooting out to 150 yards, you're losing a lot of velocity and energy, therefore increasing your chances of not cleanly killing your target.

 

The LR is a great rifle for 20-70 yard bunnies. I sometimes feel the HMR is a bit too powerful for rabbits, but that's usually if one's sat 30 yards away, as you've got such a light bullet travelling so fast, it can do serious meat damage.

[deejay]

You've clearly never fired a .22LR at a live target

 

They're a very clean round, which will cause minimal meat damage. Still hard hitting, but when you're shooting out to 150 yards, you're losing a lot of velocity and energy, therefore increasing your chances of not cleanly killing your target.

 

The LR is a great rifle for 20-70 yard bunnies. I sometimes feel the HMR is a bit too powerful for rabbits, but that's usually if one's sat 30 yards away, as you've got such a light bullet travelling so fast, it can do serious meat damage.

Thanks again and I have fired one just the once at a live target and it took the head off from 30 yards away.

I have though never fired a .17hmr to be homest and was just wondering why people seem to preffer this calibre of rifle .

And I now see that it is a trajectory issue ,also believe from what I have read that the .17 hmr are a much safer round due to there being very little or no riccochete unlike the heavier .22 round .

As I am due to recieve my Fac for both calibres the .17 hmr will be my first choice as safety comes before cost .

Regards Darren

[Billy.]

Thanks again and I have fired one just the once at a live target and it took the head off from 30 yards away.

I have though never fired a .17hmr to be homest and was just wondering why people seem to preffer this calibre of rifle .

And I now see that it is a trajectory issue ,also believe from what I have read that the .17 hmr are a much safer round due to there being very little or no riccochete unlike the heavier .22 round .

As I am due to recieve my Fac for both calibres the .17 hmr will be my first choice as safety comes before cost .

Regards Darren

 

No two rounds are comparably safer or more dangerous than each other. It is the person pulling the trigger who makes a bullet unsafe.

 

Sorry for assuming you'd not shot one.

 

HMR's are great, as they're this tiny little round with enough power to drop a fox at 200 yards.

 

Personally, I'm not a fan, as the rounds are about 3-4 times more expensive than 22 rimfire and make one hell of a sonic crack. I prefer to be a bit stealthier I used to have an HMR, but as I said earlier in this thread, I preferred my old faithful .22LR

Edited October 24, 2010 by Billy.

[deejay]

" No two rounds are comparably safer or more dangerous than each other. It is the person pulling the trigger who makes a bullet unsafe. "

I agree 100% and also have to agree that there seems to be a 50/50 divide with both guns and think it could go on for ever due to both equally having there pros and cons .

Yet I am still no further foward now as to which to buy .

Coud it be there quiter and cheaper .22 ,or could it be the longer range and flatter trajectory of the .17...........there must be a thread on this somewhere .

Regards Darren

[Billy.]

there must be a threrad on this somewhere .

 

 

You must be kidding. It's been done to death on here.

 

You can get a .22LR for £150. I'd start with that and go from there.