colin lad Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 forms for my variation nearly filled out just haven't put calibre down have almost decided on .223 but for fox only what's the .222 like as they seem a bit cheaper is ammo much cheaper? is the performance much different? colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobbit Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 Not much in it performance wise, couple of hundred fps at most, despite what many will tell you, nothing you shoot with it could tell the difference. However ammo and rifle availability could be an issue. check out your local rfd see what they have most of, I'll bet 223. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickcass23 Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 Gotta be .223 more available choice in Rifles and ammo imo, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 .223 has the edge on power, but not so much it will change the world. Wider choice of guns and ammo these days in .223. Put simply, if you reload get whichever you want, if not get a .223! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin lad Posted January 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 .223 has the edge on power, but not so much it will change the world. Wider choice of guns and ammo these days in .223. Put simply, if you reload get whichever you want, if not get a .223! thought that would be the answer from most just thought i would check before i fill it in, will send it in monday am then fingers crossed and wait Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxon88 Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 the .223 is a more current cartridge, lots of ammo an rifle choices out there. the .222 is becoming an obsolete calibre these days, you would Probly be looking at a s/h 222 rifle. they are similar in terms of performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bk Posted January 15, 2011 Report Share Posted January 15, 2011 the .223 is a more current cartridge, lots of ammo an rifle choices out there. the .222 is becoming an obsolete calibre these days, you would Probly be looking at a s/h 222 rifle. they are similar in terms of performance. The .222 isnt obsolete and I very much doubt it will be due to their inherant accuracy, thats why it was used in target for so long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davy Holt Posted January 15, 2011 Report Share Posted January 15, 2011 Hiya, The .222 isnt obsolete and I very much doubt it will be due to their inherant accuracy, thats why it was used in target for so long. Yup and even with the readily available factory ammo, it's impressively accurate and a more than capable Foxing tool. It's also a doddle to reload for :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasper3 Posted January 15, 2011 Report Share Posted January 15, 2011 Ive been doing a bit of homework on this too.. I have gone for the 222 in the weihrauch HW6oj along with a 17hmr and22LR (fingers crossed) ammo don't seem to be a problem down here.. after speaking to so many older shooters ..not one came back with a bad word to say about the 222 infact..one good friend is actually downsizing from a 223 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonevo Posted January 15, 2011 Report Share Posted January 15, 2011 222 is a bit like 22wmr expensive and becoming harder to buy get a .223 or 22.250 mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordieh Posted January 15, 2011 Report Share Posted January 15, 2011 222 is a bit like 22wmr expensive and becoming harder to buy get a .223 or 22.250 mate Hi All 222 is still cheaper to run than a 22.250 it is much nicer to shoot and you try selling a 22.250 on when you realise that a 243 will do everything a 22.250 will do only much better Geordie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildfowler.250 Posted January 15, 2011 Report Share Posted January 15, 2011 Hi All 222 is still cheaper to run than a 22.250 it is much nicer to shoot and you try selling a 22.250 on when you realise that a 243 will do everything a 22.250 will do only much better Geordie When you say better, it is still using more powder and so on. My .17 hmr is probably better than my .22 but the rabbits can't tell the difference :yp: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordieh Posted January 15, 2011 Report Share Posted January 15, 2011 When you say better, it is still using more powder and so on. My .17 hmr is probably better than my .22 but the rabbits can't tell the difference :yp: Hi CZ452 I agree dead is dead, the 243, dependant on which powder you use uses about 10% more powder but you also have the versatility to use it on any deer in the country, legally. He will also buy a 222 cheaper than a 223, the 222 uses the same bullets as the 223 and 22.250 but less powder so will be cheaper to reload, admittedly not as wide a choice but 40,50 or 55gn charlie won't know the difference.Just playing devils advocate really, i have a 222 and i love it, but if i was buying a 22 centrefire today i would go out and buy a 223 Geordie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin lad Posted January 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2011 sending it off monday and its looking like a .223 thanks all for the replies colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted January 15, 2011 Report Share Posted January 15, 2011 (edited) bk Posted Today, 06:54 AM The .222 isnt obsolete and I very much doubt it will be due to their inherant accuracy, thats why it was used in target for so long. Hiya, Yup and even with the readily available factory ammo, it's impressively accurate and a more than capable Foxing tool. It's also a doddle to reload for :) There speaks two devoted .222 owners. The calibre is good, no question, but the .223 is taking over and fewer companies are chambering new rifles in .222. Has Remington (as per Remington .222) got ANY new rifles in .222, I can't find any, did I miss one, whatever, the choice in tiny! I suspect we will be talking about the .222 in the same terms as the Hornet and WMR in the near future, realistically we are already, very very few people buy new ones these days. Doesn't mean there is anything wrong with it, the Hornet still has many uses and many devoted followers, and about a year ago I traded my last WMR for a new one. Edited January 15, 2011 by Dekers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamie g Posted January 15, 2011 Report Share Posted January 15, 2011 i would perfer to pick up the bargain and get a 222 over the 223. there dead easy to find a sweet load for. to be fair i think even my worse reloads shot more then good enough for hunting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildfowler.250 Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 Hi CZ452 I agree dead is dead, the 243, dependant on which powder you use uses about 10% more powder but you also have the versatility to use it on any deer in the country, legally. He will also buy a 222 cheaper than a 223, the 222 uses the same bullets as the 223 and 22.250 but less powder so will be cheaper to reload, admittedly not as wide a choice but 40,50 or 55gn charlie won't know the difference.Just playing devils advocate really, i have a 222 and i love it, but if i was buying a 22 centrefire today i would go out and buy a 223 Geordie Can't argue with any of that someone I know describes the .222 as the 'sweetest round' there is :yp: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyb Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 There really is nothing in it. It will come down to two factors within your local area.. 1 - What do the RFD's stock more of 222 or 223 ammo? 2 - What range of guns do they carry in each? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casts_by_fly Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 There is an easier solution to this problem. Just ask for a 22 centerfire. The application form only specifies caliber, not cartridge. You want a 22 caliber centerfire. Then you can browse the shops or boards until you find a deal on the right gun. For practical purposes, both will do the same job (as would a 22-250). If you reload then you could even go 221, 222, 223, 22-250, or even a few others that will all get the job done. Thanks, rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treestalker Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 The 222 still holds a 100yd benchrest record. Overall as a round it is more accurate than the 223 and I shot over 1000 foxes with one before moving onto a 17 Rem and then to a 223. I got a 223 as it was more versatile with heavier bullets but in all honesty there is little between the two calibres with 40-50 grain bullets. The quoted velocity figures for the 222 can be difficult to achieve in short barrelled sporters. I don't know anyone who still has a 222 yet 25 years ago it was what we all had for lamping and Scottish roe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitehackle Posted January 18, 2011 Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 i shoot with a 222 and find it a very capable round . most of our shooting is small field stuff and at 150 yards or so dead is dead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trayback100 Posted January 18, 2011 Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 i went to get bullets for my .222 on the weekend and asked the question are .223 bullets any cheaper and was told nope same price!! was thinking of changing my .222 because of the price of bullets but hearing that decided to stay with my tack driver!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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