apbuild Posted February 28, 2006 Report Share Posted February 28, 2006 Whilst doing some research to do with my Safety Officers Course, I came across this graphic picture of the damage a shotgun can cause. It really hits home, for those of us who handle firearms on a regular basis, just how a simple loss of concentration or a minor lapse in safety can cause a devastating and sometimes life altering occurrence. In the current climate in which several peaple in this country have lost their lives in shooting accidents, and with Mr Cheney in the USA showing us all how a lapse in concentration can be almost fatal, remember: PLEASE BE SAFE YOURSELF, AND IF YOU SEE SOMETHING UNSAFE, DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT! Rob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonno 357 Posted February 28, 2006 Report Share Posted February 28, 2006 See through ankle idea. Novel idea, but don't think it will catch on :o Jonno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibby Posted February 28, 2006 Report Share Posted February 28, 2006 Rough as a badgers **** that is... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mel b3 Posted February 28, 2006 Report Share Posted February 28, 2006 that's some horrific injury :o ,have you got any background info on how it happened ?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apbuild Posted February 28, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2006 No specific info but I guess it was a closed and loaded gun either being mounted when it went off, or lowered after the first barell shot. I have seen people at a nearby organised shoot resting the gun on their foot when the gun is broken, to put the cartridges in. I feel that this is a recipe for disaster. It only takes one time to cause the injury like that shown above. Rob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mr Pieman Posted February 28, 2006 Report Share Posted February 28, 2006 I have seen this picture before, on an advanced trauma care course at Leeds Infirmary. The owner kept the foot, and almost total use too. Bloody amazing, modern medicine :o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mr Pieman Posted February 28, 2006 Report Share Posted February 28, 2006 The wound was caused by someone being shot by their neighbouring gun at very close range. The hole was made by a cleaning process called 'debraiding' which removes all the **** and damage prior to cell and skin grafts. I'll try to post up the official report, its on my pc somewhere. PP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apbuild Posted February 28, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2006 Anyhow, on a lighter note, I am glad to say that I passed the Safety Officers Course. I will be watching you all closely now, and anything untoward, I'll be forced to have words of a very strong nature. :o Rob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apbuild Posted February 28, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2006 Cheers for the info Mr Pieman. I will be interested to find out how the accident happened. If the foot was saved, the guy was unbelievably lucky to say the least. Rob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadeye ive Posted February 28, 2006 Report Share Posted February 28, 2006 Must've been very close range :o .............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurcherboy Posted February 28, 2006 Report Share Posted February 28, 2006 And let that be a sobering lesson to one and all. LB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spider.20 Posted February 28, 2006 Report Share Posted February 28, 2006 at my club were tought to put the gun on our toe after bracking it. a i'v never been told not to put fresh carts in with it on my toe ether. is that wot you chaps do? spider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunganick Posted February 28, 2006 Report Share Posted February 28, 2006 i think it comes from people resting their barrels on their toes when waiting.... just the next logical progression still stupid. i rest my empty gun on my toes between stands, but theres not much wrong with that..... apart from getting crud on the end of your barrels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mel b3 Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 I have seen this picture before, on an advanced trauma care course at Leeds Infirmary. The owner kept the foot, and almost total use too. Bloody amazing, modern medicine :o a bit off topic but how did they manage to save it ? , i can see how a bullet wound could be repaired but i can't see how they can repair something that isn't there , it's amazing , certainly a real life lesson for us all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flash Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 not a nice picccy, it trully is amazing what modern madecine can do nowaday flash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikky Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 at least he won't have to throw out any socks with holes in :o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 Just goes to show, NEVER POINT A FIREARM IN THE WRONG DIRECTION. This goes for unloaded aswell. :o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the last engineer Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 if any of you guys compete in open cource , EG skeet, trap, int trap and so on you'll find many shooters, myself inc rest their gun on the foot, with or without shells, this practice has been going on for a coons age, so much so that quite a few gun manufacturers make and market leather pads for your shoe/boot to rest the muzzles, its not dangerous or stupid, shooting your bloody foot off is stupid ! http://www.gunwear.co.uk/item.php?itemname...+Pad&itemid=586 this may show you, even in the UK :blink: Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikky Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 as frank says...or you won't have a leg to stand on :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mr Pieman Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 For those that want to know. The foot was only saved because the main artery wasn't severed - although a tourniquet woud save the leg, the foot would have 'died'. This is evident by, although what appears a horrific wound, the foot is a good and healthy colour - from good blood flow. The wound is cleared out and all manky flesh is cut away - debraided. Then, the foot and wound is ratcheted together, leaving a gap of around 20mm. Bone regrowth tries to reconnect across the 20mm gap and, just before the ends touch they are ratcheted apart again, and so on until the proper length is restored - ish. Plates then get used to make up the difference and reinfirce the joints. Rods replace foot bones with a calcate coating. Bone grows naturally over the calcate covered rod, eventually making a new bone. Muscle and skin grafts add bulk, veinal grafts add blood and hey! Presto!! From debraiding to walking again almost normally - 7 months. 10 years ago - lower limb amputated without any other options!!! PP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted March 2, 2006 Report Share Posted March 2, 2006 I am with TLE on this one, I always rest my gun on my foot and will continue to do so. Gun saftety is obvious to any one with any comon sense. (yes I know "the problem with common sense is it isn't very common") If a gun is open and unloaded it isn't going to hurt anybody. How do I know a gun in a slip (closed obviously) isn't loaded? I can guess but I can't be sure... I always carry my gun out of it's slip at clay shoots as well for the same reason, and because I always get an annoying bit of fluff caught in the bead when I take it in/out the slip :*) :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billy Posted March 2, 2006 Report Share Posted March 2, 2006 not a nice picccy, it trully is amazing what modern madecine can do nowaday flash and a bit of polyfiller... :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadeye ive Posted March 2, 2006 Report Share Posted March 2, 2006 I never rest my barrels on my toe .............The weight is'nt a problem as I have a very Strong right hand and arm to match due to plenty of :blink: Ive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted March 2, 2006 Report Share Posted March 2, 2006 stick rubbing? :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
william Posted March 2, 2006 Report Share Posted March 2, 2006 ouch! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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