bobby dazzler Posted March 3, 2006 Report Share Posted March 3, 2006 have we got any mechanics on this forum could do with a bit of advice got a peugeot 306 turbo diesal but is very lumpey in the mornings and chucks out load of smoke but when warm runs fine its just when its cold any ideas :< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonno 357 Posted March 3, 2006 Report Share Posted March 3, 2006 change the oil ? valve stem seals worn? dark lane and torch it :thumbs: :blink: Jonno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie Posted March 3, 2006 Report Share Posted March 3, 2006 take the fags of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzzer1 Posted March 3, 2006 Report Share Posted March 3, 2006 More than likely to be ya valve stem seals...once they warm up they expand therefore making them seal tighter. All the best Buzz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdev Posted March 3, 2006 Report Share Posted March 3, 2006 LB the man for the job pm him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meeky Posted March 3, 2006 Report Share Posted March 3, 2006 could be dirty fuel/fuel filter or timing of the pump slightly out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobby dazzler Posted March 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2006 thanks for advice chaps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnskevena Posted March 3, 2006 Report Share Posted March 3, 2006 dark lane and torch it Jonno :thumbs: :blink: :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted March 3, 2006 Report Share Posted March 3, 2006 could be the injectors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted March 3, 2006 Report Share Posted March 3, 2006 dark lane and torch it good man jonno. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted March 3, 2006 Report Share Posted March 3, 2006 have we got any mechanics on this forum could do with a bit of advice got a peugeot 306 turbo diesal but is very lumpey in the mornings and chucks out load of smoke but when warm runs fine its just when its cold any ideas :< :thumbs: Does it start OK BD? If it doesn't you will get loads of unburnt deisel pumped though and that will make do what you say. If it doesn't start OK, sounds like you need new glow plugs, they are about 70 quid from Peugeot and don't last for ever. I have had 3 306 D turbo's and they are very reliable and good on fuel and they go well for diesels too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbd1 Posted March 3, 2006 Report Share Posted March 3, 2006 Its your glow plugs 1 or more could be worn, lots of smoke even worse when its cold? you should be able to do them yourself, you can check them easily by taking them out one at a time and passing 12volt current through them if they warm up they are ok, if one or more doesnt warm up replace them all. Cheers Neil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted March 3, 2006 Report Share Posted March 3, 2006 My first thought would be the glow lugs but if its high mileage it may also be the injectors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted March 3, 2006 Report Share Posted March 3, 2006 what color is the smoke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobby dazzler Posted March 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2006 the color of the smoke is a grey color i have changed glow plugs and done fuel filter had new battery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted March 3, 2006 Report Share Posted March 3, 2006 could well be the rings then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobby dazzler Posted March 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2006 is that a lot of money to do the rings do u no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted March 3, 2006 Report Share Posted March 3, 2006 personally i would put another block in (engine) its quicker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobby dazzler Posted March 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2006 great a lot of money then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted March 3, 2006 Report Share Posted March 3, 2006 Noooooooooo dont do anything like that!! Its winter, diesel cars hate it. Diesel fule gets quite thick in the winter, and is very difficult to get it ignited. Make sure your batter is ok, (test with a voltmeter), but if its turning over ok, it shouldnt be a problem. If you can, keep the car is some place warm. It wont start bellow -1.. or if it does, it will take a lot of work, especially if its old. ANother thing you can try is add some fuel additives to help the engine start. I think Redex do some things like this, have a look in your local petrol station. Dumping a bit of this in with the fuel will help getting started on cold days. In Russia you sometimes see people starting a little fire under their diesel pickups and trucks, to warm the engine enough to get it started. Theres no hope starting it in -40 Should be fine.. Diesels rarley break the piston rings. Very good on maintainance.. providing you replace the oil every now and then, they will keep running up to the 200,000 mile mark if well cared for :thumbs: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted March 3, 2006 Report Share Posted March 3, 2006 Get it in to a diesel mechanic, they can test the compression to discount the rings etc. Sounds like the injectors to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted March 3, 2006 Report Share Posted March 3, 2006 Our tractor has exactly the same problem every winter.. it will get better when it warms up again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apbuild Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 Bobby Dazzler, My diesel is the same. You start it from cold and have to give a bit of accelerater to chuck out all of the grey smoke and then it is fine. I think Hunter has it correct in so much as the glow plugs warm the initial diesel to start the engine and then, thicker colder diesel comes along. If it runs O.K other than the initial grey smoke, leave it alone. Rob. P.S My diesel has 148,000 on the clock and runs smooth as a nut once warmed up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobby dazzler Posted March 4, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 yea mine runs fine when its warm but when cold its realy lumpey thing is i want to sell it but i cant sell it like that i want to sell it cus i want 4x4 but no one will buy it like that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old rooster Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 yea mine runs fine when its warm but when cold its realy lumpey thing is i want to sell it but i cant sell it like that i want to sell it cus i want 4x4 but no one will buy it like that I'll give you £50 for it if you buy my Fourtrak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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