masterzone2 Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 Hey Looking to get a pump action or other manual action shotgun (sec one) looking for something light and hi cap (7+) 26" barrel would be good MUST be able to handle solid slugs The shotguns is for PSG and clay pigeon. Any advice of which ones are good and which are ****. Budget wish is 400-500 but If I test one and it good I'll save the extra few quid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colster Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 Can I ask why pump, must say for me I can't see the point in them now semi's can be so good... unless you want to go a bit "Tackleberry" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masterzone2 Posted February 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 I have two slots for sec one shotguns on my FAC slot one is filled with a semi auto and I have been told I can only have one semi auto shotgun UNLESS I can come up with another good reason to have another semi auto. The semi auto I have can't handle solid slugs. so the pump needs to do that job as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz-loc Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 http://www.sportsmanguncentre.co.uk/product/884b631d7d25283024768464/WINCHESTER+SXP+Black+Shadow+12G/ check this out atb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCD Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 I have 1 of these and love it http://www.sportsmanguncentre.co.uk/product/584c6f9bc88c9a9669817743/BENELLI+Super+Nova+Pump+Synthetic/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Kelly Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 (edited) Why not get a slug barrel for your existing semi? I don't think you'll be able to use a slug in a normal shotgun barrel and the specialist slug barrels are rifled I believe, for better accuracy, but no good for using with shot cartridges. I had a remi 870 for years and it was very easy to use. Edited February 23, 2011 by Tim Kelly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casts_by_fly Posted February 23, 2011 Report Share Posted February 23, 2011 what semi do you have that doesn't take slugs? If it is a fixed tight choke you can open it up. Thanks, Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy H Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 You cannot have a rifled slug barrel on a semi or pump other than a 22 rimfire as then it becomes section 5 prohibited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzrat Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 I have two slots for sec one shotguns on my FAC slot one is filled with a semi auto and I have been told I can only have one semi auto shotgun UNLESS I can come up with another good reason to have another semi auto. The semi auto I have can't handle solid slugs. so the pump needs to do that job as well. Surely the fact that your present gun cannot handle slugs would be good reason to have another semi-auto that can handle slugs? especially if you intend to scope it or have rifle sights on the slug gun. Fuzrat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Kelly Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 You cannot have a rifled slug barrel on a semi or pump other than a 22 rimfire as then it becomes section 5 prohibited. Didn't know that. I wonder why? How about rifled chokes? I think you can get them to put in a multi choke barrel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 Take a look at a benelli super nova Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpk Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 As above good guns ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breastman Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 (edited) Didn't know that. I wonder why? How about rifled chokes? I think you can get them to put in a multi choke barrel. Because the definition of a shotgun is a "smooth-barrelled . . . . " Anything else is a firearm, and semi-auto and pump-action firearms (other than .22lr rifles and low-cap shotguns) were banned after Hungerford. Bizarrely rifled chokes are S1 though :blink: Take a look at a benelli super nova Gets my vote Mark Edited February 24, 2011 by Breastman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 much as i say my benelli snova is a heap, i have pretty much shot it exclusively for th past 6 months. i`m much used to something alittle fancyer. but it doesnt half take some abuse. it hasnt even skipped a beat yet. maybe i should change my oppinion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon123 Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 Because the definition of a shotgun is a "smooth-barrelled . . . . " Anything else is a firearm, and semi-auto and pump-action firearms (other than .22lr rifles and low-cap shotguns) were banned after Hungerford. Bizarrely rifled chokes are S1 though :blink: Gets my vote Mark Three beautiful guns you got there mate :good: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masterzone2 Posted February 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 The semi auto is GRAM71s' old SPAS 12 because of the fixed choke extension (which is required to keep the barrel above 24 inchs other wise I can't have it and I want to keep it as I am really getting on with it) the chances are the police will say I'll have to give up the SPAS oppose to getting a 2nd semi auto So I light of that I would rather get the pump action and use that for slugs the super nova seams to have a good report Its a pitty a 2nd semi auto was off the cards as I would have just got one of the M series (M1,M2,M3 etc) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masterzone2 Posted February 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 Oh BTW Breastman what are the two guns at the top of your picture I am guessing the middle one is one of the "M" guns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breastman Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 (edited) Three beautiful guns you got there mate :good: Cheers! Just wish the plod would hurry up with my renewal so i can actually use the sodding things! Oh BTW Breastman what are the two guns at the top of your picture I am guessing the middle one is one of the "M" guns. Middle gun is an 24" M2 with a Nordic +6 mag extension and an extended end cap on that! Gives an extra shot and i like the mag to slightly protrude over the barrel to help protect it. The gun on the bottom is a 26" Supernova with a +7 mag tube. The SN is quite a recent purchase but i'm getting on very well with it so far Mark Edited February 24, 2011 by Breastman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 sorry to hear you're having so much grief with your local fld, if it was me i'd be tempted to make an official complaint and appeal their decision, it's obvious you have a genuine reason for a 2nd sec1 shotty, it seems absurd that they should impose this condition as it's above and beyond their remit and authority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masterzone2 Posted February 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 (edited) Suffolk are a good lot really. They tend to say no to 2 semi autos for the same thing however I know someone who has 2 semi auto rifles (.22) one of targets and the other for rabbits. SO may be I can use the SPAS for club practice and competition and say an M1 for slug competition out of club and at club for practice. But my FAC just says 2 (now one with the spas taking one slot) slug shotguns nothing about anything else. Oh mark what is the O/U gun at the top of the picture? Edited February 24, 2011 by masterzone2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel100 Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 I have to say that I'm a little partisan - Benelli Supernova w/ Eotech 512 and side saddle ctg holder - it's ugly, it's a tool for a specific job. Rgds Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breastman Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 Browning Cynergy Blackice, I'm 'allergic' to wood! Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masterzone2 Posted February 25, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2011 Seams a bit odd now when I was asking for advise on how to word my FAC for SEC1 shotguns I was given the whole "if you haven't got reason you can't have one" Now it appears the "good reason" has found me to have a pair of semi autos but I still really would like a pump as well. Hence why I asked for a pump and semi It would have been nice to get that 3rd slot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casts_by_fly Posted February 26, 2011 Report Share Posted February 26, 2011 Why not just open up the fixed choke from whatever it is to IC constriction? That is plenty open enough for slugs yet still retaining a little bit of choke for shot. Any gunsmith should be able to do it quite easily. Thanks Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil smith Posted February 26, 2011 Report Share Posted February 26, 2011 Masterzone It is not unreasonable to ask for 3 semi-auto shotguns & 1 pump action for psg competition. The UKPSA/IPSC have 4 different divisions to choose from, each division requires a dedicated gun because of the rules that seperate what is allowed to be fitted to the guns in each division. A quick summary of them are... Standard Manual Division... Pump Guns only no semi-auto's, so thats one gun. Standard Semi-Auto Division...Any semi-auto but no porting of barrels or optical sights & limited to 9 rounds at the start, so thats another. Modified Division... Any Semi-Auto but many more modifications are allowed that are not permitted in the standard division, ie barrel porting which cannot be removed from the gun, so thats three guns. Open Division... Anything goes, any semi-auto including the box magazine fed Saiga 12, optical sights & any other modifications are allowed, the Saiga is the daddy in this division so that makes four distinct guns that are required. So all very specific guns that cannot easily be chopped or changed to switch between divisions, remember you can enter any match in any division you wish, providing you have the right gun for that division, so simply ask your force to give you permission for a gun for each division, that will get you three semi-auto's & a pump gun as a minimum. You could also argue that as the UKPSA/IPSC run championship matches & you wish to be included for score within that championship you also need spare guns for each of the 4 you already have in case it breaks during a match & it cant be fixed without a visit to a gunsmith which would mean you could not complete the match on that day so in total that could give you 8 guns all together, I know people who have that many & for the above reasons. Good luck N Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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