gixer1 Posted March 18, 2011 Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 Just wondering what people are zeroing thier 22 WMR's in at? I recently picked up one of these and zeroed in at around 75 yards and I tried a few rounds at 100yards and notice the drop is around 1-2" which is no problem but would I be better zeroing in for 100? I am using CCI maxi mag + V and (30gr i think) at the moment....but have some BT's on order... would anyone have a trajectory graph for 22 wmr (although i know this will depend on the rounds being used) Regards, Gixer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted March 18, 2011 Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 this has a fair amount of information, does conclude the HMR is better though so you might want to ignore that bit http://www.chuckhawks.com/compared_17HMR_22WMR.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steyrman Posted March 18, 2011 Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 I zero mine dead on at 100yds with Hornady 30g v-max Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowen20 Posted March 18, 2011 Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 I zero all my rifles at 100 yds I think it's a good platform for taking off from so to speak not too far not too close. Altho I do zero my .22lr at 50 yds because when walking round with lamp that's the distance I tend to shoot them at. I have got a .22 WMR too and zero that at 100 yds using 33 grain remmington accutip I think they were. Shot a couple of bunnies out to 130 yds not much hold over at all. I wanted to try the 30 grain hornady but nowhere stocked them I bet they are good rounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steyrman Posted March 18, 2011 Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 Funny you saying that Bowen i cant find any remington 33g acccutip so use the Hornady instead i pay between £11/13 a box what price do you pay for the remmy's ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowen20 Posted March 18, 2011 Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 Ha I know I live in southyorkshire and have to travel around 55 miles for the rounds which are at Northallerton so when I go I get as many as I can afford I've phoned A few shops close to me to order some in but to no avail soooooo I mainly go out with the .223 now anyway so it's kind of sat in the back of the cabinet it is a very nice rifle and performed well when out and about the rounds are £12.50 a box Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted March 18, 2011 Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 Hi, Ok, let's just get the better accurate than quick out of the way for a minute! I won't give you the BC figures - the manufacturers don't release them and mine are based on actual bullet performance and may not be reliable (let out clause). The CCI may just have the BC of a brick: MV is 2200, 50 is 1750 and 100yds is 1373 with 127 ft/lbs. Meanwhile the Remington 33gr BT is a tad different: MV is 2000, 50 is 1730 BUT 100 is 1495 with 164 ft/lbs. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixer1 Posted March 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 (edited) this has a fair amount of information, does conclude the HMR is better though so you might want to ignore that bit http://www.chuckhawks.com/compared_17HMR_22WMR.htm Thanks for the replies and info guys, much apprecieated, Alex,I know the HMR is a flatter faster round but I wanted a cartridge for the odd fox now and again and the majority of the foxes we shoot are from highseats and lamping (which to be honest are also usualy around the 100 yrd mark, the reason i don't just take the 243 is that when out lamping the wmr removes the requirement to carry the 243 and 22LR, we also quite often suffer from blustery gales up here so thought the WMR would be better suited as it has the edge on energy over the HMR at these ranges... I had a bad experience with a fox and an HMR! Plus its a cowboy gun! interesting what the article says about MPBR which would suggest I zero at +1.5" at around 60yards to get a 0 elevation at 100 yards.... regards, Gixer Edited March 18, 2011 by gixer1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted March 18, 2011 Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 Hi, with a first zero of c38yds you'll stay with in 0.5" all the way out to a 95yd zero with a 2" drop at 125 and c5" at 150. For fox, have a look at the 40gr RWS. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixer1 Posted March 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 Hi, with a first zero of c38yds you'll stay with in 0.5" all the way out to a 95yd zero with a 2" drop at 125 and c5" at 150. For fox, have a look at the 40gr RWS. Cheers Thanks Wymberly, my local shop only stocks the CCI maxi mag +V so i have asked them to order in some BT's for me (i didn't specify a brand just that they were BT's) so now that i have zeroed at 75 yards should i redo at the 38/95 yards? i'm really looking to get the flattest part of the trajectory curve between 50-120 yards if you see what i mean? also do you find the WMR shoots in the same place with BT's and the hollow points if they are of similar or did you need to rezero to suit the different tips due to BC differences?? Regards, Gixer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted March 18, 2011 Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 personally I don't reckon it gets round the need to take the .243 when lamping or wouldn't for me as its still not a fox gun, we always take both because you can't guarantee a fox will come in. occasional foxes like the HMR but range wise it just limits you on rabbits and makes shooting them more tricky. But you have one now so to make the most of it so from that it suggests a 100 yard zero and you just have to hold under a bunnies head close in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted March 18, 2011 Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 Thanks Wymberly, my local shop only stocks the CCI maxi mag +V so i have asked them to order in some BT's for me (i didn't specify a brand just that they were BT's) so now that i have zeroed at 75 yards should i redo at the 38/95 yards? i'm really looking to get the flattest part of the trajectory curve between 50-120 yards if you see what i mean? also do you find the WMR shoots in the same place with BT's and the hollow points if they are of similar or did you need to rezero to suit the different tips due to BC differences?? Regards, Gixer Hi, Second point first, Nah, usually have to re-zero, damnit! (Before some one jumps all over me, the following figures are as they came off the ballistics programme. This is handy for saving time and expense as it gets you in the ballpark (pretty close to the centre spot), but it's necessary to check it out in practice.) Yep, hear what you're saying. The following figures are for the Remington BT but to all intents and purposes the CCI run the same. Zero at 109yds. 50 is 0.7 and 120 is -0.7. Culmination is at 71yds and is 1". First zero is 32yds. Forgetting all the bumph, the two 0.7s seem easy to remember in the field! Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted March 18, 2011 Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 Any Zero distance for any calibre should be set at the most appropriate distance for the tool and target/quarry distance. My WMR is actually zeroed at 100 yards because that works best for my needs, set yours wherever best suits your needs. ATB! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted March 18, 2011 Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 My Ruger is zeroed at 1.5" high at 50 yds,which means I get a MPBR of about 112 yds on a 3" target.I got this from an Oehler ballistic chart years ago,and it seems to work fine.From 0 to 125 yds is only a 1.4" variation in trajectory.This is based on 40grn heads,my rifle doesn't seem to like the 33's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted March 18, 2011 Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 My Ruger is zeroed at 1.5" high at 50 yds,which means I get a MPBR of about 112 yds on a 3" target.I got this from an Oehler ballistic chart years ago,and it seems to work fine.From 0 to 125 yds is only a 1.4" variation in trajectory.This is based on 40grn heads,my rifle doesn't seem to like the 33's. If it works for you then that is all that matters, but after a few bottles of wine, lager and liquers please help my brain, what the **** is MPBR? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catweazle Posted March 18, 2011 Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 If it works for you then that is all that matters, but after a few bottles of wine, lager and liquers please help my brain, what the **** is MPBR? It's where you don't have to aim off, dependent on the size of your killzone http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point-blank_range Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted March 18, 2011 Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 My Ruger is zeroed at 1.5" high at 50 yds,which means I get a MPBR of about 112 yds on a 3" target.I got this from an Oehler ballistic chart years ago,and it seems to work fine.From 0 to 125 yds is only a 1.4" variation in trajectory.This is based on 40grn heads,my rifle doesn't seem to like the 33's. Scully, help me out again here, I accept I have been on the juice, but the vast majority of scopes sit about 1.5inches above the bore, so how on earth can you have a 1.4" variation fron 0-125 yards as the bullet must rise above the line of sight and drop off again in flight? Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted March 18, 2011 Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 It's where you don't have to aim off, dependent on the size of your killzone http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point-blank_range Cheers, but moving on further, what has a 3" target got to do with anything? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catweazle Posted March 18, 2011 Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 Cheers, but moving on further, what has a 3" target got to do with anything? The writer is using a 3" target as his killzone, so the PBR is where he can hit between 1.5" high and 1.5" low without aiming off. It's a bit big for a rabbit, but fine for bigger quarry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted March 19, 2011 Report Share Posted March 19, 2011 MPBR=maximum point-blank range.Yeah,you're right Dekers,trajectory dips below zero up 'til about 20 yds,where it first crosses mimimum point-blank range,rises above zero(but never by more than 1.5")until it reaches about 112 yds,where it crosses zero and meets its maximum point-blank range as it drops away.By the chart I have,after 125 yds you're outside your MPBR and have to start aiming off. Think Catweazle explained it better,and also agree with him about the 3" target being somewhat on the small side for rabbits.It just happened to be the target size on the chart.Technology moves on,and there are probably better charts available nowadays,but I tend to stick with what works for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catweazle Posted March 19, 2011 Report Share Posted March 19, 2011 MPBR=maximum point-blank range.Yeah,you're right Dekers,trajectory dips below zero up 'til about 20 yds,where it first crosses mimimum point-blank range,rises above zero(but never by more than 1.5")until it reaches about 112 yds,where it crosses zero and meets its maximum point-blank range as it drops away.By the chart I have,after 125 yds you're outside your MPBR and have to start aiming off. Think Catweazle explained it better,and also agree with him about the 3" target being somewhat on the small side for rabbits.It just happened to be the target size on the chart.Technology moves on,and there are probably better charts available nowadays,but I tend to stick with what works for me. It's a useful guide to a calibre. I forgot to write that of course you won't be hitting ( in your example ) 1.5" high or low, because in the field you'll look at the target at say 50yds and think " that's between 40 and 60 yds away, I'll aim 1" low ". That's the real world advantage of an HMR or WMR over the 22LR, you aim dead on, then just give it 1" depending on approximately where it is right up to 125 yards. I love it. The PBR of a proper calibre like 17rem or 204 is really impressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted March 19, 2011 Report Share Posted March 19, 2011 Thanks guys, my head is a bit clearer today, I'm familiar with PBR but MPBR threw me yesterday! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewsher500 Posted March 19, 2011 Report Share Posted March 19, 2011 Any Zero distance for any calibre should be set at the most appropriate distance for the tool and target/quarry distance. My WMR is actually zeroed at 100 yards because that works best for my needs, set yours wherever best suits your needs. ATB! you should zero according to the trajectory of whatever round you are hunting with. target zeroing is different (fixed range) the comments about PBR are bang on. you should zero at 100 as it give the best PBR for MOST WMR ammo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted March 19, 2011 Report Share Posted March 19, 2011 Any Zero distance for any calibre should be set at the most appropriate distance for the tool and target/quarry distance. My WMR is actually zeroed at 100 yards because that works best for my needs, set yours wherever best suits your needs. ATB! you should zero according to the trajectory of whatever round you are hunting with. target zeroing is different (fixed range) the comments about PBR are bang on. you should zero at 100 as it give the best PBR for MOST WMR ammo. In principle 100 works well for the WMR with most bullets and for many quarry. The point I was trying to get accross is, there is NO specific distance to zero any tool at. If, for example you only ever ambush fox near the chickens at a constant distance of 40-50 yards with your WMR then zero at 45 yards! ATB! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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