BBC Headlines

[figgy]

Wonder what BASC is doing to counter this s+++ that they are spouting it's always the same they come out and say it then do a small peice later or apologise when no ****** is watching to balance the argument, by then the damage is done so much for BBC impartiallity!!!!.

 

ATB figgy

[onefulham]

I notice both BBC and MSN have removed the story from their web site now, not heard radio or tv, prob damage done which was enough for them with their biased ****

[woodentermite]

people dont realize that they can't buy a gun or use one unsupervised etc and that it will have been issued by the police who must think that those kids will be safe and responsible to have a licence. this stuff makes me angry! people dont know **** about guns or the laws!

[HDAV]

BBc Headlines this morning about kids under 10 being granted certs.. They say the report is worrying..

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12840557

Hmm now has a video of some young girls reading a script and interviewing an 11 year old about target shooting :blink: who admits he has never fired a shotgun?!?!? And some clips from an indoor rifle range!?!?!? Why?

[David BASC]

Dear All,

 

Our press team were working flat out on a national and indeed regional level when the BBC broke this story.

 

We were also working along side the CPSA to make sure a consistent message came form the shooting community.

 

Thanks to all for complaining to the BBC, just as we were doing at about 7 in the morning, this certainly helped to get the silly headline changed.

 

David

[sitsinhedges]

I thought the report by the children was excellent even if they only shot match rifles at their college

[HW682]

There was covered in a bit more depth at about 6am this morning on Radio 4 Farming today. They had a woman from LACS, a farmer and Mike Eveleigh from BASC.

 

LACS were predictable and took the line that it is wrong to teach young children to kill animals.

Neither the farmer or BASC really got acros the simple point that even with a SGC, a 10 yr old cannot buy a gun or ammunition or use it without adult supervision.

 

I know some of it might be down to editing etc but to be honest BASC representative was not that strong and got a bit too complicated trying to talk about using a gun on private land with an occupiers permission. He then seemed to completely lose the plot and appeared to suggest that it was a good idea to give a SGC to hyperactive childeren as it will calm them down.

 

This is not a BASC bash as I am a member and support them. Equally it is not a personal attack as such on the BASC representative because he did a better job than I would. OTOH he was put up a our paid spokesman.

Sometimes you just have to put your hand up and say "yep, I got that a bit wrong."

 

In my opinion this didn't go as well as it could.

Edited March 25, 2011 by HW682

[David BASC]

As well as farming today we gave live interviews on Radio 5 Live and the BBC Home Service.

 

We are also quoted on the BBC web site making the very point that HW682 states above

 

We were also quoted in Daily mail, The Sun and the Daily Express, as well as a number of regional and local newspapers including the Yorkshire Post.

 

I take you point about the owner occupier bit, but is was an answer to a direct question - and yes as you rightly say the piece was edited

 

Regards

 

David

[Gillaroo]

My lad was chuffed with his short lived fame being one of the 13 under 10's when he got his licence. The way he has been brought up with strict safety and only taking what actually tests him and is sporting would put many adults to shame.

 

A very proud Gillaroo.

Edited March 25, 2011 by Gillaroo

[David BASC]

Here is the list of activity we undertook on Thursday:

 

Steve Bloomfield is your BASC Midland Director, Simon Reinhold is your East Regional Officer, soon to take the helm in the East, Meurig Rees is your BASC Wals Officer, and Steve Woohhall is your BASC Northern officer, Mike Everlegh is your BASC Sen Firearms Officer

 

 

•BBC News website – Steve Bloomfield

•Daily Telegraph – Steve Bloomfield

•BBC World Service – Mike Eveleigh (48 mins into clip)

•BBC Radio 5 Live – Steve Bloomfield (44 mins into clip)

•Mail on Sunday - Mike Eveleigh

•BBC Radio 4’s PM programme - Mike Eveleigh

•BBC Radio Leicester – Steve Bloomfield

•BBC Radio York - Steve Bloomfield

•BBC Radio Leeds - Steve Bloomfield

•BBC Radio Essex (interview) - Steve Bloomfield

•BBC Radio Essex (phone-in) - Simon Reinhold

•BBC Radio Hereford and Worcester - Steve Bloomfield

•BBC Radio Bristol - Steve Bloomfield

•BBC Radio Wiltshire - Steve Bloomfield

•BBC Radio Cumbria – Steve Bloomfield

•BBC WM – Steve Bloomfield

•BBC Radio Newcastle – Steve Woodhall

•BBC Radio Cymru - Meurig Rees

•Trans World Radio - Steve Woodhall

 

And here is a list of what we did today;

 

•BBC Radio 4’s Farming Today programme – Mike Eveleigh (start of clip)

•BBC Radio 4’s PM programme – a BASC Young Shot

•BBC Look North – a BASC-accredited shotgun coach and a BASC Young Shot

•Mail on Sunday - a BASC-accredited shotgun and a BASC Young Shot

 

And another big THANK YOU to all of you who contcted the BBC etc to voice you objection to how they reported this 'story'

 

David

[Dan73]

Nice one - thanks David BASC

[Dekers]

It happens every time.

 

The problem is the news on the BBC (or anywhere) is not unbiased and factual, it is sensationalised, as they are in a ratings war with every other broadcaster and media format!

[masterzone2]

Still talking ******** I wouldn't expect anything less from the state television service.

 

On another note I am now in trouble with my 8 year old I told her she was not allowed to use my shotguns till she was 15

(fac) she now thinks she can get her SGC and use them Thanks BBC (NOT!) Now I have to run through the WHOLE FAC SGC

difference with her.

And before any one asks BOTH myself and her mother don't believe she is ready to even control and air rifle let alone a shotgun.

 

If that is not an example of responsible firearms ownership I don't know what is!

[edr]

Proud to say I have owned mine since I was 11 and now just expecting my first renewal next year.

 

EDR

[markshooter]

This is the first time i have posted a reply to a post, But like most on here i fill really strongly about how the bbc are misrepresenting shooting again be putting a someone on from MOTHER AGAISNT GUNS. , Everything she said was about illegal hand gun.

i think that she needs to get her FACTS right before going on tv and talking aload of bull !*@£.

I know im new to shooting but i have always been safe. They should give out the stats on how safe our sport

[mossy835]

im sure most of us are safe with guns,but they just want to make out that guns are bad.

[masterzone2]

They can claim all guns are bad until they are blue in the face.

 

Illegal guns will always be here end of.

 

Because Illegal guns exist the police will need them or an alternative example RMPs or military unit.

 

Because the police and other government unit have them the Civilians must have

 

the ability to have ownership (Section 2 shotguns being a good example-Stated as a civilian right to own one)

 

Now I am not 100% sure on this But we have old laws and reasons like pest control, humane dispatch etc

 

So keep it up BBC by all means but next time a fox does something or there are still shootings with illegal guns and you

 

the BBC ask where are the people with guns to shoot back.

 

REMEMBER it was you the BBC who caused it you Biased *********

Edited March 26, 2011 by masterzone2

[pigeon_basher]

The woman from mothers against guns or whatever its called got on my tits going on about people getting hold of handguns which is nothign to do with a shotgun licence

[wayne78]

As stated in another forum on this site, hats off to the young guy on the BBC Breakfast news this morning for doing his best to stand up to a one sided 'debate' even though he couldnt get a word in edge-ways. The Mothers against Guns woman had lots more air time than him and really shouldnt have even been there as it wasnt about illegal guns which are the real problem

Edited March 26, 2011 by wayne78

[Kes]

I along with many others, saw the interview with the 'mothers against guns' and the obviously intelligent and articulate young man who was too gentlemanly by half with a bigot sat by him.

I would sympathise with any mother whose son has died and in such a dreadful way but it was not the man holding the gun who killed her son, it was the gun he must have been holding.

I thought the young man did us all a favour - a good embassador but the management of the 'debate' lacked any fairness and it became obvious that, as the mother against guns said of herself, she would march against anything to do with guns.

I was interested to see that the female newscaster tried to inject a few correct facts into the 'debate'.!!

The BBC halo has now slipped too far - I too have complained.

Night all.

[wayne78]

Thanks for those who suggested complaining to the BBC, I'm not normally a 'sheep' but I felt that strongly about this I too have complained. I suggested the BBC may like to try and undo some of the damage its done with this bias piece of reporting and send the weekend Breakfast sports guy (Mike Bushell) to a clay ground to shoot with youngsters as a build up to the Olympics and show how responsible they are when handling a weapon

 

Just hope he doesn't come to my local ground when I'm there and show what a c**p shot I am

[Horrocks]

Have made formal BBC complaint re Headline asking for proof of under 10s being issued with guns.

 

Why? That makes out there is a problem with under 10's being issued wth SGC's, there is absolutely no problem with this. As far as i'm concerned, and having handled shotguns from pre-10 age, there's only gain to come from allowing younger enthusiasts to shoot. Provided it's done in a responsible manner it allows shooters to be indoctinated with the safety rules from a younger age, I've seen far more older shooters handling shotguns dangerously than I ever did at young shots. Simple things like breaking the gun, safely climbing fences e.t.c. are all second nature for me, and I'm on the lookout for dangerous handling in myself and others the entire time.

 

Even apart from this firearms training helps take away the mystique that weapons hold for younger (and older) people, provided it's responible (and I can't imagine too many FAO's handing a shottie to a child without a responsible parent) there's only gain involved, for the kids and the future of the sport.