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Just wanted to bounce a few things off any of you guys that go after Charlie.

 

I've only shot .22RF and .17HMR before but there is a need on my land for a fox calibre. Officially .17HMR isn't sanctioned specifically for foxes. What I'm after is a calibre that has easily sourced and reliable factory ammo and isn't overkill for my quarry. If the ammo doesn't cost a fortune that woul dbe good but not vital.

 

Anyone give me some pointers? I'm sure .22 hornet will come straight up but everything I read says factory ammo is comedy for it so in my mind Ive discounted that already. Re-loading is something I want to get into but need a house with more space first.

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forget the hornet and forget overkill, it comes down to .223 or .243 if you want to go for deer at a later stage. Both are cheap to shoot on foxes, lots of factory ammo about and plenty of guns both new and second hand.

 

You'll get every obsolete caliber under the sun mentioned and yes they all have their place but a lot are in cabinets not used bought as a good idea at the time. Simply there isn't a good gun for both rabbits and foxes so have one for each that does the job well.

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forget the hornet and forget overkill, it comes down to .223 or .243 if you want to go for deer at a later stage. Both are cheap to shoot on foxes, lots of factory ammo about and plenty of guns both new and second hand.

 

You'll get every obsolete caliber under the sun mentioned and yes they all have their place but a lot are in cabinets not used bought as a good idea at the time. Simply there isn't a good gun for both rabbits and foxes so have one for each that does the job well.

 

OK, sounds like your on my wavelength. Do you know the pros and cons between .223 and .243. I will never be shooting deer. It will be dedicated to foxes!

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.223 then simple cheaper to shoot and very effective, if you reload it uses less powder there are loads of guns both new and second hand about. Range wise you can shoot to your abilities its perfectly capable to 300 yards plus if you can put the bullet in the right place. Kills aren't marginal and it knocks down foxes very well. It is also slightly quieter than bother the 22-250 and the .243. factory ammo is available from £12 or so for privi upwards with decent ammo being about 75p to £1 a pop bearing in mind you don't plink with them its well worth the money as you rarely take many shots per outing and well if you had a good night its well worth it

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.223 then simple cheaper to shoot and very effective, if you reload it uses less powder there are loads of guns both new and second hand about. Range wise you can shoot to your abilities its perfectly capable to 300 yards plus if you can put the bullet in the right place. Kills aren't marginal and it knocks down foxes very well. It is also slightly quieter than bother the 22-250 and the .243. factory ammo is available from £12 or so for privi upwards with decent ammo being about 75p to £1 a pop bearing in mind you don't plink with them its well worth the money as you rarely take many shots per outing and well if you had a good night its well worth it

 

Right thats a good starting point and all makes sense. Cheers

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Agree with Alex, 223 suits everything you require, cheaper to run than a 243 - I would have voted for 243 but if you dont want to take deer there is very little point in going down that road.

 

A pal shoots a steyr 223 and its a nice bit of kit that kills brilliantly :good:

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I'm just going through my variations for .243 mate and this will be used mostly for foxes though deer will be sort

after in time. I would have stuck on a .223 if my land hadn't passed for .243, being a little cheaper to run ammo

wise for shooting fox. But a stuck with the .243 simply to keep cost down swaping the .223 for the .243 if an

when i go deer stalking, hopefully soon. Better having a gun to do both jobs then buying one to swap it for another

at extra expense a little further down the line. And as posted above, lot of ammo about for them both, so you can

pick an choose whats right for your gun. Cant wait for mine to come through now lol.

 

ATB

 

DD

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Just wanted to bounce a few things off any of you guys that go after Charlie.

 

I've only shot .22RF and .17HMR before but there is a need on my land for a fox calibre. Officially .17HMR isn't sanctioned specifically for foxes. What I'm after is a calibre that has easily sourced and reliable factory ammo and isn't overkill for my quarry. If the ammo doesn't cost a fortune that woul dbe good but not vital.

 

Anyone give me some pointers? I'm sure .22 hornet will come straight up but everything I read says factory ammo is comedy for it so in my mind Ive discounted that already. Re-loading is something I want to get into but need a house with more space first.

After last night; first night out with new Hornet for a home load accuracy check and popping rabbit at 177 yards, I know where there's a stainless varmint Tikka T3 223 1 in 8 which has fired just (exactly) 599 rounds with mod. and which has only gone from cabinet to truck to truck roof and back.

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As I use a 22-250 I'd say go for that as it's my own preference, and I wouldn't swap it for any other calibre for Fox Control.My 2 mates use .22-250 too and they swear by this calibre for Charlie!

As a gentleman said above any .22 Centrefire is good enough.

 

I was told by FEO that a 22-250 was too much gun for my first center fire. But because my land past for .243 i could go in for that.

Which i thought was a bit strange to say the least. He did sort of explain the pros an cons but it would take ages to put type on here.

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I was told by FEO that a 22-250 was too much gun for my first center fire. But because my land past for .243 i could go in for that.

Which i thought was a bit strange to say the least. He did sort of explain the pros an cons but it would take ages to put type on here.

 

It's funny how FEOs work, mine said on my first licence "Don't go for a .222, I'll give you a 22-250"

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.243 is now classed as suitable fox caliber. It has a 6mm bullet head and is far more powerful than a .223/222 etc.

Another excellent caliber for fox is the .22-250. This is a very fast,flat and hard hitting caliber that certainly deals with foxes.

Ammo is cheap enough, if you purchase the PRVI Partizan brand.

All in all, .222,.223 and .22-250 will all do the job well,some better that others.

 

Steve.

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I was told by FEO that a 22-250 was too much gun for my first center fire. But because my land past for .243 i could go in for that.

Which i thought was a bit strange to say the least. He did sort of explain the pros an cons but it would take ages to put type on here.

 

That's strange as I wanted a .243 as a starting CF but my FEO said NO!He said I could either have a .222,.223 or 22-250 on which I settled on.

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the hornet and the 17 calibre cf rifles are good little foxers, but imo unless your going to reload from he start i wouldn't buy one. as there isn't lots of choice in factory ammo. and what there is can be expensive.

 

222/223 and 22/250 are all good choices they also have a good amount of factory ammo for them. and then when you reload a big choice of bullet heads. as for hich one to go for the choice is yours.

 

never had a 223 but friends have and there very good and accounted for a good number of foxes. ive had 222 but to be fair didn't give it the time I should have as I always reached for the 22/250 because i had it longer and was use to shooting that more.

 

the 222 though was very accurate.light recoil easy to mod the blast, and a joy to use. they also can be picked up for next to no money so bargains are there to be had.

 

22/250 was my 1st centrefire I had. I went for one just to have something different from the 223 and 222 rifles, it has abit more recoil but not a great deal

 

I also like the fact it was a fast flat and very hard hitting round. and from what I had asked other people that owned them and loved them.

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Get yourself a .223 and be done. The choices of factory ammo are great - American Eagle 50gr HPs worked nicely for me before I started reloading.

 

I never get the 'get a 243 and then you can shoot deer as well' argument. I do agree completely that .243 is an excellent fox round, and you can also shoot deer, but the setup of the gun is totally different for each so makes sense to have two. Also, 223 is flatter than a 243 setup for deer, and with a mod you can see the bullet strike where you can't with 243. IMHO this is definitely a case where one calibre can do both, but you can't get one gun to be ideal for both.

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Get yourself a .223 and be done. The choices of factory ammo are great - American Eagle 50gr HPs worked nicely for me before I started reloading.

 

I never get the 'get a 243 and then you can shoot deer as well' argument. I do agree completely that .243 is an excellent fox round, and you can also shoot deer, but the setup of the gun is totally different for each so makes sense to have two. Also, 223 is flatter than a 243 setup for deer, and with a mod you can see the bullet strike where you can't with 243. IMHO this is definitely a case where one calibre can do both, but you can't get one gun to be ideal for both.

 

You just know when something makes sense.

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