semiautolee Posted April 21, 2011 Report Share Posted April 21, 2011 ideal if any one wants to have a go at making there own magnet etc......available from the 25/04/2011 look like a handy bit of kit. link is below http://www.lidl.co.uk/cps/rde/xchg//SID-5882EA8D-42FDB9B1/lidl_uk/hs.xsl/index_20110.htm?offerdate=&ar2=10&id=1028&country=GB&zipcode=DL14+9AB&city=Durham&district=Bishop+Auckland&street=St.+Helens+Auckland&ar=10&nf=True Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beretta28g Posted April 21, 2011 Report Share Posted April 21, 2011 Not particualy good amp range. There are better welders out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksdad Posted April 21, 2011 Report Share Posted April 21, 2011 1-3mm from a stick ? I wouldn't bother TBH Get a used no/gas Mig instead! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semiautolee Posted April 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2011 Not particualy good amp range. There are better welders out there. well for someone wanting to have a go at welding or have a go at making a magnet etc... cant see why it shouldnt be ok for the price Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beretta28g Posted April 21, 2011 Report Share Posted April 21, 2011 (edited) For thin stuff I prefer Tig, Mig would be the easy one for beginners. Edited April 21, 2011 by Beretta28g Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diceman Posted April 21, 2011 Report Share Posted April 21, 2011 For thin stuff I prefer Tig, Mig would be the easy one for beginners. Tig Welder £1000 Lidl Buzz & Stick £35 Should be fine for blobbing a magnet together, and if you learn to weld on one of those you will be laughing when you upgrade to a mig. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semiautolee Posted April 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2011 Tig Welder £1000 Lidl Buzz & Stick £35 Should be fine for blobbing a magnet together, and if you learn to weld on one of those you will be laughing when you upgrade to a mig. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeh Posted April 22, 2011 Report Share Posted April 22, 2011 For thin stuff I prefer Tig, Mig would be the easy one for beginners. Even Mig starts around the £270 Mark. I think a cheap little toy like this is better to get you started, than having the whole 'All the Gear, No Idea' thing going on. Your not going to be able to weld a Landy Chassis together, but heck, you won't even be able to do that with 'Cheap' (£300) Welders. Also, if it explodes you've got a lawsuit on your hands! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSPUK Posted April 22, 2011 Report Share Posted April 22, 2011 Mate of mine bought a £1k Lathe just to turn a bolt shank into a point it's now sitting in his garage collecting dust. dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted April 22, 2011 Report Share Posted April 22, 2011 ideal if any one wants to have a go at making there own magnet etc......available from the 25/04/2011 look like a handy bit of kit. link is below http://www.lidl.co.uk/cps/rde/xchg//SID-5882EA8D-42FDB9B1/lidl_uk/hs.xsl/index_20110.htm?offerdate=&ar2=10&id=1028&country=GB&zipcode=DL14+9AB&city=Durham&district=Bishop+Auckland&street=St.+Helens+Auckland&ar=10&nf=True Seems good enough for small repairs etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
humperdingle Posted April 22, 2011 Report Share Posted April 22, 2011 Seems good enough for small repairs etc Yeh i'd say so. Or building targets for rimfire / airguns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPARKIE Posted April 22, 2011 Report Share Posted April 22, 2011 Yeh i'd say so. Or building targets for rimfire / airguns. Oi dont give people ideas you will put me out of buisness.lol anyhow it would be cheaper to buy the target holder from me than to make your own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted April 22, 2011 Report Share Posted April 22, 2011 Mate of mine bought a £1k Lathe just to turn a bolt shank into a point it's now sitting in his garage collecting dust. dave Sounds like my uncle only he wouldn't have actually got round to doing the turning!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaxiDriver Posted April 22, 2011 Report Share Posted April 22, 2011 Oi dont give people ideas you will put me out of buisness.lol anyhow it would be cheaper to buy the target holder from me than to make your own. Lets See then ? I bought a mig welder, auto tinting helmet and was determined to teach meself to weld (some experience 30yrs ago) but it never happened :( HOWEVER, now someones mentioned making targets/holders.......mmmmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaguar Warrior Posted April 22, 2011 Report Share Posted April 22, 2011 (edited) I bought a C Giant chinese inverter welder off evil bay a couple of years ago with plasma cutting and tig ability. I haven't upgraded to either of the two yet and just use it for stick welding. It is absolutely brilliant. The current is electronically controlled and very smooth compared to the old 'oxford' oil filled thing I learned on. How much was it? £180 !! The equivalent at machine mart was about £900. You would be utterly amazed at the prices of chinese top quality goods. C Giant also made my electric guitar. Ive just received a CR123A charger and 4 lithium ion batteries from Hong Kong which cost £8 inc postage I've also ordered a few dirt cheap Li ion batts (remember they are lightweight) to bring a couple of cordless drills back into service. Cost £10 each, inc PP. Ive ordered a 6.8 Ah Li ion battery for my gunlight weighing a fraction of my dead Lead battery the same as the deben ones minus 'charge indicator' for only £15 inc PP. Escape from rip off Britain and deal with Asia directly.0 Update 8 May 201 - these were too weak to operate either my drills or deben tracer light. It was a gamble that didn't pay off. I couldn't find out the max current output. Thats one problem with li-ion powerpacks - they are a battery and control board in a box. The protection circuits needed for li-ion cause the unit to shut off if you attempt to draw power too quickly. Mind you, that saved me from blowing up three perfectly good batteries. I'm posting this at risk of looking a fool because i've been PM'd asking about which batteries to buy and I'd hate for anyone to make the same mistake. Edited May 9, 2011 by Jaguar Warrior Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaybeNextTime Posted April 23, 2011 Report Share Posted April 23, 2011 well for someone wanting to have a go at welding or have a go at making a magnet etc... cant see why it shouldnt be ok for the price 'cause it is a lot harder to weld with cheap kit than with decent kit. You'll be constantly frustrated between blowing holes, things only being stuck together with slag and it cutting out due to it's pathetic duty cycle. Nothing worse than trying to work with a cheap welder. For that price, buy a magnet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonD Posted April 23, 2011 Report Share Posted April 23, 2011 'cause it is a lot harder to weld with cheap kit than with decent kit. You'll be constantly frustrated between blowing holes, things only being stuck together with slag and it cutting out due to it's pathetic duty cycle. Nothing worse than trying to work with a cheap welder. For that price, buy a magnet. I have to agree, for someone trying to learn they will quickly get frustrated with the stick welder posted, you might get something bird sh1tted together but the welds will break constantly. To be honest I doubt that welder listed would manage much more that a 3" weld in thin steel before the thermal cut off kicked in, even then the steel will most likely be distorted. I'm not a welder but used to repair everything from low end DIY kit to awesome Migatronic MMA\MIG\TIG welders and the difference is night and day as I haad to be able to test them and am reasonably competent. The inverter units give you flexibility in a small space and are great for smallish jobs and give you the choice between MMA\TIG but have the power to back it up. If you want to make cheap magnets\target holders i'd get hold of a good second hand MIG as you can manually pulse to avoid blowing holes in the steel with 0.8 wire or drop to 0.6, my personal preference would be TIG with HF start with a pulse\slope panel and pedal; however that's going to cost a serious lot more that the set we are discussing here. Thanks to the original poster for the heads up but IMO this is like starting shooting with a really badly fitting gun where you will give up and it sits in the garage unused. Cheers, Jon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted April 23, 2011 Report Share Posted April 23, 2011 Many years ago, amongst other engineering subjects I taught, gas and manual arc welding. 80 Amps is poo. Don't waste your time or money. webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semiautolee Posted April 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2011 im NOT going to buy one guys i have no use for one.....just thought id post it you never no!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricko Posted April 23, 2011 Report Share Posted April 23, 2011 OMG you have got me onto the subject of welding, My only grade A at O level in 1987 was Metalwork (3D Studies) I have several methods of welding available to me: MIG welder. High purchase cost Capable of welding thin metal, used it a lot on car body repairs Wire goes rusty and doesn't weld as well if left for long periods Oxy/Acet bottles. Versatile, can braze, cut etc You must observe all safety requirements eg flashback arrestors etc etc. Good for lighting BBQs Manual Metal Arc welding (Stick welding) Cheap to buy Difficult to maintain steady arc No good for thin metal Tig welding. Very expensive set up - not used since college days I have gone back to using an arc welder for trailer construction, quick and easy, good depth of weld penetration at high current. All thanks to Mr Roden - metalwork teacher, school; Terry Hampton - metalwork tutor, college and Ed Walley - legend, manure spreader inventor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksdad Posted April 24, 2011 Report Share Posted April 24, 2011 Thanks to semiautolee for showing us the kit, a lot of stuff in Lidl is top quality gear at a decent price I myself can recommend the Milbona 250g low fat fruit yoghurts at 26p a go, plus the big jar of green pitted olives for £1.49 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39TDS Posted April 24, 2011 Report Share Posted April 24, 2011 All thanks to Mr Roden - metalwork teacher, school; Terry Hampton - metalwork tutor, college and Ed Walley - legend, manure spreader inventor And when are you going to start building gigantic statues of men and not really know where to put them? (that's what he seems to be doing these days) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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