Billy. Posted June 10, 2011 Report Share Posted June 10, 2011 Don't go bringing actual facts into internet arguments Nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted June 10, 2011 Report Share Posted June 10, 2011 so on a side tangent what are they designed for? is it to get round regulations for range use? as lets face it being a yank company they don't have most of the regs we do with having to use expanding on deer and not being able to post expanding etc etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted June 10, 2011 Report Share Posted June 10, 2011 Oh yes, bullet manufacturers spend a lot of time on lead hardness antimony etc. Hornady are very much at the forefront in this regards, also the way in which the jacket bonds to the lead etc. I am not saying they are 100% different in this case only Hornady can tell you that. If it was worthwhile spending the time and effort the way of knowing would be to fire a few samples into a test medium OR contact Hornady and pose the question perhaps? From the same thread on UKLR; I read somewhere that some fella had sent Hornady an email asking what was the difference between AMax and VMax and the answer he got was "The label on the box" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted June 10, 2011 Report Share Posted June 10, 2011 From the same thread on UKLR; And in other news, sales of A-Max bullets go through the roof. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Logic Posted June 10, 2011 Report Share Posted June 10, 2011 Not in my experience they don't, they work perfectly. Don't go bringing actual facts into internet arguments Nick I found the 22 cal on muntjac very good, and not excessively messy but the 30 cal hole was so huge I won't try again.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casts_by_fly Posted June 10, 2011 Report Share Posted June 10, 2011 so on a side tangent what are they designed for? is it to get round regulations for range use? as lets face it being a yank company they don't have most of the regs we do with having to use expanding on deer and not being able to post expanding etc etc The slight increase in BC via the boat tail and ogive differences and the weight niches they are sold to. They are primarily made at the weights target shooters for a particular caliber use. The 243, 260, and 308 are heavy for caliber bullets favored for longer range shooting. The 224 is right on the 50-55 range traditionally for short to medium target. So the bullets are marketed for target shooters and they are called a target bullet, but that just means that they are accurate. It doesn't define any of the other properties of the bullet. Thanks, Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Logic Posted June 10, 2011 Report Share Posted June 10, 2011 The A-max is a purely marketing thing AFAIK; people don't always like target shooters using hunting bullets. The 52-grain is slightly different to both 50 and 55 vmax, but it's basically the same idea. In GB, they are a very good way around the daft section 5 bullet laws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted June 10, 2011 Report Share Posted June 10, 2011 I found the 22 cal on muntjac very good, Indeed, they could almost market the 52 grn as a Muntjac bullet it works so well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted June 10, 2011 Report Share Posted June 10, 2011 now is that because it doesn't expand like a Vmax? as personally I used to like the 55grn vmax simply because it did do a lot of damage on foxes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted June 10, 2011 Report Share Posted June 10, 2011 They don't blow them to bits (I have never used V Max but I understand that is what they are designed to do?) they seem to expand just enough to drop them and no more. Not a great picture, but you get the idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted June 10, 2011 Report Share Posted June 10, 2011 weird so if they are so similar why do they act so differently or is it just muntjac are tougher than foxes? effectively what you have there look far more like soft points Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Logic Posted June 10, 2011 Report Share Posted June 10, 2011 They don't act differently to vmax.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted June 11, 2011 Report Share Posted June 11, 2011 Do you not think it is to do with shot placement ? Using 50gn Vmax I knock over fox with little external damage, though I haven`t skinned them. Yet I have had some bad damage to roe with 50gn SP`s. I would also say that a roe has a wider and tougher rib than a fox.........what say you ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardo Posted June 11, 2011 Report Share Posted June 11, 2011 it wouldn't surprise me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted June 12, 2011 Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 I used to find the 52gr A-Max in my .223 was a brilliant Fox bullet. I never tried them on Deer as I'm not even sure the Deer act had changed when I had it to allow .22cf's to be used? I will be giving them a go though through my new .223 simply because they can be posted. A more important fact that so far has been overlooked is that if you have a silly ammo hold number from a restrictive FEO you can still hold as many in component form as you like. They are not restricted so you could keep a million of them on your porch with "free to collector" written on them if you wanted to! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted June 12, 2011 Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 They are not restricted so you could keep a million of them on your porch with "free to collector" written on them if you wanted to! It's madness.. Get caught with this: and you'd be in absolutely no trouble. Get caught with this: and you're looking at doing time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted June 14, 2011 Report Share Posted June 14, 2011 Im going out to the Hornady factory in Nebraska next month so I will ask for a definative answer to this long running question. I guess there's no better way to find out than go there in person and ask. Bit keen if you ask me but if you're willing to do that just for us then you're a star! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilishdave Posted June 14, 2011 Report Share Posted June 14, 2011 I asked 10 Roe shot with 105 AMAX and none of them said they would prefer to be shot by anything else!! Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beretta28g Posted August 21, 2011 Report Share Posted August 21, 2011 Coast to coast, im visiting Leupold and Savage too. Any results then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beretta28g Posted August 21, 2011 Report Share Posted August 21, 2011 Well? What are they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted August 21, 2011 Report Share Posted August 21, 2011 This will be post 49 on this thread and there is NO definitave answer, the difference is limited and I would be confident the actual result here will depend more on distance and what you actually hit than the bullet composition! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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