djgeoff Posted September 6, 2011 Report Share Posted September 6, 2011 is it correct that if i was to release a grey squirrel it is an offense? it has to be dispatched, is this correct? if this is correct, then why in todays sun newspaper ( assuming its a grey) did number 10 downing street not conform to this and dispatch the offender? and what did the r.s.p.c.a do with the squirrel if it was a grey? see attached scan of news report your thoughts please have i got it wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mk1 Man Posted September 6, 2011 Report Share Posted September 6, 2011 No you haven't got it wrong if it was a Grey you got to kill it if you catch it....More likely that D.C. Doesn't have a water butt in the back garden of No.10 :unsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted September 6, 2011 Report Share Posted September 6, 2011 No you haven't got it wrong if it was a Grey you got to kill it if you catch it....More likely that D.C. Doesn't have a water butt in the back garden of No.10 :unsure: But I bet there is something humane in his office to the job! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spara Dritto Posted September 6, 2011 Report Share Posted September 6, 2011 Disgusting to drown an animal, even if it is a pest. Every animal deserves a clean kill. Sharp blow to the back of the neck/head every time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFN Posted September 6, 2011 Report Share Posted September 6, 2011 I don't think you have to kill them but I believe you need a special Defra licence to be able to keep them, and in some special cases to release them - although they didn't seem to report the fate of the squzzer in question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mk1 Man Posted September 6, 2011 Report Share Posted September 6, 2011 Disgusting to drown an animal, even if it is a pest. Every animal deserves a clean kill. Sharp blow to the back of the neck/head every time. i wasn't being serious I take it you didnt see it on the news a while back then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diceman Posted September 6, 2011 Report Share Posted September 6, 2011 Is it just me or does that whole story just reek of BS? A spate of baby squirrels falling out of trees and hurting their legs? What? It amazes me that the species has survived, thank the lord for the RSPCA and their 'trainee inspectors' I smell a PR man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha Mule Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 (edited) But I bet there is something humane in his office to the job! Giving the topic of what a bunch of planks our MPs are a swerve: The plod that guard the PM are all armed. There wouldn't be any fuss if one of the lads eased the poor wee squizzer out surely. Edited September 7, 2011 by Alpha Mule Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 That idiot, Simon Cowell from Animal SOS (?) is seen many times on TV. releasing Grey's that he has rescued and patched up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddypigsaw Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 That idiot, Simon Cowell from Animal SOS (?) is seen many times on TV. releasing Grey's that he has rescued and patched up! I've been to his place. They even raise newly hatched feral pigeons that have fallen from the nest! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spara Dritto Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 i wasn't being serious I take it you didnt see it on the news a while back then. Sorry bud, I thought you where... They do it in Italy all the time with animals they consider pests; wild cats, rats etc. Doesn't make me proud to be half Italian when you hear that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corvid wings Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 No you haven't got it wrong if it was a Grey you got to kill it if you catch it....More likely that D.C. Doesn't have a water butt in the back garden of No.10 :unsure: sorry bud the law just changed you can apply for a licence to release grey's.the rspca have a licence for all it's superintendents,so they can let them go ! wish i knew where they let them go,PULL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 That idiot, Simon Cowell from Animal SOS (?) is seen many times on TV. releasing Grey's that he has rescued and patched up! I missed that, it does seem odd! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 On the basis that DEFRA, a lot of Europe, Australia, and the US have been working together for several years to eradicate the Grey, and DEFRA has had an OPEN hit list on them for about 5 years, then any approval to release a Grey will be VERY rare. Once bought into captivity for whatever reason, their fate is generally sealed, it is a life of captivity forever onwards, or a very short life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperfection Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 They havent broke the law-the animal was never trapped. If you were to trap a grey you are legally obliged to destroy it as they're not a native specie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 (edited) They havent broke the law-the animal was never trapped. If you were to trap a grey you are legally obliged to destroy it as they're not a native specie. Trapping has nothing to do with it, if it has become captive for whatever reason then read on......... Under the Wildlife and Countryside Act the release of non indigenous species is prohibited without a licence from the Department of the Environment. This would include species such as Canada Goose, Grey Squirrels and American Mink. http://www.naturalengland.org.uk/Images/section-14-guidance_tcm6-16966.pdf This makes very interesting reading! http://www.naturalengland.org.uk/Images/schedule9stats_tcm6-10261.pdf Edited September 7, 2011 by Dekers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corvid wings Posted September 7, 2011 Report Share Posted September 7, 2011 On the basis that DEFRA, a lot of Europe, Australia, and the US have been working together for several years to eradicate the Grey, and DEFRA has had an OPEN hit list on them for about 5 years, then any approval to release a Grey will be VERY rare. Once bought into captivity for whatever reason, their fate is generally sealed, it is a life of captivity forever onwards, or a very short life. the rspca has a policy of any greys handed in are returned back to the wild asap,just under 500 last year, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goosegun Posted September 10, 2011 Report Share Posted September 10, 2011 Should be an offence reading the Sun paper,,,It should have gone out with the News of the world.!!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted September 10, 2011 Report Share Posted September 10, 2011 (edited) the rspca has a policy of any greys handed in are returned back to the wild asap,just under 500 last year, The RSPCA are not above the law (even though they commonly like to think they are). Where did you come by this information? Ok this is 2009, and some years before, but on this basis I would have to suggest the RSPCA are breaking the law if your statement is correct! http://www.naturalengland.org.uk/Images/schedule9stats_tcm6-10261.pdf Edited September 10, 2011 by Dekers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corvid wings Posted September 11, 2011 Report Share Posted September 11, 2011 (edited) was hoping i got it wrong but hear it is in black and white ,,sorry cant do it , it's in the Times on line ,CAPTURED SQUIRRELS LIVE TO NIBBLE AGAIN / FEB 16 2008 ,SORRY NOT VERY GOOD ON COMPUTERS Edited September 11, 2011 by corvid wings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted September 11, 2011 Report Share Posted September 11, 2011 was hoping i got it wrong but hear it is in black and white ,,sorry cant do it , it's in the Times on line ,CAPTURED SQUIRRELS LIVE TO NIBBLE AGAIN / FEB 16 2008 ,SORRY NOT VERY GOOD ON COMPUTERS Scroll down this link to 2008 and look at the Grey Squirrel figures. These are Government/DEFRA/Natural England, Official Figures. http://www.naturalengland.org.uk/Images/schedule9stats_tcm6-10261.pdf On this basis we must be drawn to the conclusion that if your Times article from 2008 (which I haven't seen) says the RSPCA released 500 greys they have broken the law, only 6 licences were issued and only 273 Greys effected in 2008. But the Times article may well be talking about RSPCA figures for 2007, as it was Feb 16 2008, in which case it is possible, the figures show 13 Licences and a total of 1693 Greys effected in 2007. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corvid wings Posted September 11, 2011 Report Share Posted September 11, 2011 Should be an offence reading the Sun paper,,,It should have gone out with the News of the world.!!. sorry ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southeastpete Posted September 11, 2011 Report Share Posted September 11, 2011 so the rspca has a licence to release. But where do they release them? Surely it would be an offence to release them onto someone elses property? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted September 11, 2011 Report Share Posted September 11, 2011 (edited) so the rspca has a licence to release. But where do they release them? Surely it would be an offence to release them onto someone elses property? Do they? Edited September 11, 2011 by Dekers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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