Outlander Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 Next time it happens I will have a look just out of curiosity. Outlander. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utectok Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 I think that once the acorns poison them they stop eating hence empty crops. The must have to digest the acorns to ingest enough tannin?? Well its a theory anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scolopax Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 If you guys read the whole thread, the reason behind it was mentioned in post 2. There was a big outbreak here three seasons back, this year its back but not quite so bad this time. The same disease has also seen off alot of greenfinches in recent years, although I did see a flock of 100+ last week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted October 16, 2011 Report Share Posted October 16, 2011 i think the red coating on the seed, is like a copper coating to protect the seed, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeon street Posted October 17, 2011 Report Share Posted October 17, 2011 If you guys read the whole thread, the reason behind it was mentioned in post 2. There was a big outbreak here three seasons back, this year its back but not quite so bad this time. The same disease has also seen off alot of greenfinches in recent years, although I did see a flock of 100+ last week. I'm with you Scolopax trichomonosis is mentioned on the 2nd post its common name is Canker. if you look it up all the symptoms we have seen point to this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Mike Posted October 17, 2011 Report Share Posted October 17, 2011 Its probably Tricho..this year the outbreak seems to be particulary bad. Attached scanned pages from my Bird diseases book. Hope it comes through OK. Usually the crops are empty when the birds die as they dont feed for several days and liflessness is a typical symptom. Tricho.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeon street Posted October 17, 2011 Report Share Posted October 17, 2011 Found another one today, just feel out the tree. Crop empty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratsmasher Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 I had it down that because of the weather this year there were a lot of young squabs that couldnt handle the cold when it came in and ive only started seeing them since it got cold...but its probs tricho atb ratty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 If it was a coating on the seeds you would be seeing it in spring not mid Ocober surely? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted October 19, 2011 Report Share Posted October 19, 2011 Its probably Tricho..this year the outbreak seems to be particulary bad. Attached scanned pages from my Bird diseases book. Hope it comes through OK. Usually the crops are empty when the birds die as they dont feed for several days and liflessness is a typical symptom. Does not feeding mean not drinking either? Dehydration will kill a lot quicker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeon street Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 If it was a coating on the seeds you would be seeing it in spring not mid Ocober surely? both, they will drill spring and autum, which prob means that it isn't the coating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeon street Posted October 20, 2011 Report Share Posted October 20, 2011 (edited) Does not feeding mean not drinking either? Dehydration will kill a lot quicker. With this disease (trichomonosis) they drink more, apparently. Edited October 20, 2011 by pigeon street Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good shot? Posted October 22, 2011 Report Share Posted October 22, 2011 (edited) Farmer on one of my farms reckons he's been finding weak pigeons laying about around his house. Could be anybody's guess why Are they teenagers? Edited October 22, 2011 by Good shot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted October 22, 2011 Report Share Posted October 22, 2011 The general view is that it is trichomonosis , but there is no doubt that an increase of "unexplained" pigeons deaths always seem to coincide with good acorn crops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambs shooter Posted October 23, 2011 Report Share Posted October 23, 2011 I saw 3 dead woodies yesterday on the Grounds of Holkham house estate. Saw another in my area today (Cambridgeshire). They hadn't been shot and there was no signs of how they died. They were very skinny, no meat on them at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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