vole Posted November 8, 2011 Report Share Posted November 8, 2011 Even though Israel is playing it down , I have felt for a while that these two big dogs on the block are on collision course . Israel would never tolerate a nuclear armed Iran , who , since Saddam went have been unopposed in the region . I do not think the UK has anything to take to such a party but even as bystanders , the fallout could be serious . Anyone else think that Bushehr is going to get it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88b Posted November 8, 2011 Report Share Posted November 8, 2011 Seeing as Imadinnerjacket has stated he would like to see Israel wiped off the face of the earth, taking an uneducated guess I'd think Iran could be turned to glass in the near future. I'm not jewish but I have the utmost respect for Israel, they don't take **** from anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CZ550Kevlar Posted November 8, 2011 Report Share Posted November 8, 2011 i`d put my vote for pro-israel, these 2 groups have always hated each other and never been shy in hiding it. i just hope they keep it in house amongst the arab league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
four-wheel-drive Posted November 8, 2011 Report Share Posted November 8, 2011 I would not trust Israel one bit as the French PM said to Obama he thought the Israeli PM is a liar and Obama as good as agreed with him. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-15635476 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CZ550Kevlar Posted November 8, 2011 Report Share Posted November 8, 2011 I would not trust Israel one bit as the French PM said to Obama he thought the Israeli PM is a liar and Obama as good as agreed with him. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-15635476 Pot, Kettle & Black springs to mind with those 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wharf Rat Posted November 8, 2011 Report Share Posted November 8, 2011 Best article I have read on the situation I think (hope). Avnery is one hell of a man. Former Israeli commando turned politician he has been at the centre of politics there since the 40's. Friends of both Sharon and Arafat, he should know his stuff. http://www.avnery-news.co.il/english/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperfection Posted November 8, 2011 Report Share Posted November 8, 2011 I dont think anyone wants to start stiring up that particular hornets nest! Like others have mentioned Israel wont tolerate Iran waving nukes at them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artschool Posted November 8, 2011 Report Share Posted November 8, 2011 these events have been set in motion for a long time. I don't see Israel winning this fight in the long run. America has a lot to answer for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted November 8, 2011 Report Share Posted November 8, 2011 Wait until after Christmas . The Americans are pulling out of Iraq and the whitehouse has uncovered an Iranian plot to bomb embassy's in America . I think we can expect the states to take some very serious military action against Iran early next year . Harnser . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vole Posted November 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2011 Bear in mind the grief that the remnants of the Iraqi army gave the West , Iran has a standing army of about 1m ( plus militias ) and a load of modern stuff they have acquired . Could get nasty . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted November 8, 2011 Report Share Posted November 8, 2011 Pot, Kettle & Black springs to mind with those 2. +1 beggars belief really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the running man Posted November 8, 2011 Report Share Posted November 8, 2011 Wait until after Christmas . The Americans are pulling out of Iraq and the whitehouse has uncovered an Iranian plot to bomb embassy's in America . I think we can expect the states to take some very serious military action against Iran early next year . Harnser . well they and we do have seasoned,battle hardend experienced and theatre trained troops now,there will never be a better time to go into iran than 2012......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ack-ack Posted November 8, 2011 Report Share Posted November 8, 2011 +1 beggars belief really Same as that. They're all a bunch of **** stirring sabre rattlers. Bored of it. Either has the the power to offer the olive branch but neither wants to loose face. Pathetic. Our military operations over the past 10 years have done more to promote nuclear weapons than anything else. If Saddam or Gaddafi had them they wouldn't have been invaded. North Korea is as safe as houses due to their arsenal. The irony is lost on those **** wits that try and achieve world peace through war. Gets right on my tits. I'm no mung bean eating tree hugger, I just think the world would be a better place if everybody respected each other and chilled the funk out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted November 8, 2011 Report Share Posted November 8, 2011 (edited) Edited. Edited November 9, 2011 by ordnance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kes Posted November 8, 2011 Report Share Posted November 8, 2011 Israel would expect an attack from Iran - Iran has said it would like to see Israel eradicated. Would you wait until maybe 400K of your people are evaporated ? The conflict between the two is inevitable I believe, the form it might take isnt. There is still an opportunity for the Arab league to intercede and establish themselves as a force for good. As the israeli opposition leader said tonight - Iran is the worlds problem and I do think the world, not israel alone, will deal with them. For this small mercy I would be grateful as Israel, acting alone, would set the world alight - Netanyahoo ? is a liar and almost as dangerous and uncompromising as Amaddinnerjacket . This is not a muslim /christian/infidel thing its a small phsychotic president leading a small but influential group. The religeous leaders in Iran do know that the president is mad and the people are not stupid. If it happens it will be a short conflict but very bloody. Let us hope the Israelis are as wise as they were in the gulf war ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted November 8, 2011 Report Share Posted November 8, 2011 Taking the macro view, putting to one side the horrors that would ensue but reflecting on what my grand father and father told me as a child; perhaps a conventional war on a mass scale is just the tonic to get the world economy going again - there again ... Whilst I agree with concept Ack-Ack, while such polarised differing religious ideologies exist, there is no chance which ultimately means there is no chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKPoacher Posted November 8, 2011 Report Share Posted November 8, 2011 As if my magic the U.N. nuclear atomic energy agency has found and published evidence that Iran is manufacturing nuclear weapons, just after the decision has been made to take them out. Just like Iraq all over again. We never learn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boromir Posted November 8, 2011 Report Share Posted November 8, 2011 I hope the UK stays out of it and Israel put a well placed bomb in Iran. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artschool Posted November 8, 2011 Report Share Posted November 8, 2011 so does anyone care to name exactly what Iran is guilty off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortune Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 It looks like we’ve had our hands in the pot and stirring it up here before. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat Overthrowing a democratically elected government. Don’t suppose oil and gas have got anything to do with it? And weren’t we part of supplying Saddam with chemical weapons to attack Iran with only later to then boot him up the rear because he supposedly had weapons of mass destruction. Tony assured parliament that this was the case and that our destruction was “potentially” only hours away. Were any weapons of mass destruction’s found in Iraq? And didn’t the Americans and the French AND don’t forget us (Tony & Gordon went to gaddafi’s tent out in the desert and embraced him as a BROTHER) and as a result of this sold him a load of services and he tortured anyone that we didn’t like The downside to all of this is that some brave lads of ours have been killed and wounded for what? So some rich power brokers can play games with the world like a game of Risk! It all makes what loony David Icke says make a lot of sense. This video is 32 minutes long. Watch it right through http://www.infowars.com/63259/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alanl50 Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 Wait until after Christmas . The Americans are pulling out of Iraq and the whitehouse has uncovered an Iranian plot to bomb embassy's in America . I think we can expect the states to take some very serious military action against Iran early next year . Harnser . You really believe the Americans they are currently looking for a place to store all the WMD they never found in Iraq, and the sad thing we follow them like the good little poodles we are. If Israel and Iran want to square up to each other good luck to them Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ack-ack Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 so does anyone care to name exactly what Iran is guilty off? They're trying to protect themselves by creating a nuclear deterrent. Whilst the thought of them becoming a nuclear power leaves me cold you can't fault their logic. The biggest worry is if they manage to properly develop the technology and then a few years down the line they have a regime change in circumstances similar to Libya and this tackle vanishes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the running man Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 Theres some vast distances for both armies to cover if they did kick off,so i can only see a couple of bombing runs,nothing too protracted the logitics are not condusive for a full iran invaision by isreal.......so sit tight and watch the oil continue to flow!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Scholl Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 Great, another Middle Eastern war. Just what we need. I'm sick of playing world police all the time. Sometimes I wish we could go back to being isolationists like we were before WW2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vipa Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 Still waiting for someone to say its all made up and its about the oil. It's unlikely to be made up but ultimately peace in the middle east is atop the entire western world's 'needs' list.. without it oil supplies will suffer drastically and western civilisation (which is wholly dependant on affordable and abundant oil) will suffer greatly (possibly even crumble) So.... whether it is by diplomacy, force or iradiation.... the west (in particular the US) MUST ensure the middle east oil reserves remain availble! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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