enumber Posted November 18, 2011 Report Share Posted November 18, 2011 Hi, I went into the local Gunshop near my parent house looking for a Trap Gun. He had in a Browning A1 and another Browning I can't remember what but it was a little dearer at over a grand. The A1 was Belgian made in 1969 chocked 3/4 and full. Looked to be in pretty decent nick for the age and had quite clean bores. He was after £900 for it. I know sod all about trap guns and was wondering if this was a good deal or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beretta28g Posted November 18, 2011 Report Share Posted November 18, 2011 Dont quote me but that sounds expensive for a 42 year old trap gun thats probibily had loads of cartridges through it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bi9johnny Posted November 18, 2011 Report Share Posted November 18, 2011 that don't sound like much of a bargain to me mate check it out first guntrader or likewise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matone Posted November 18, 2011 Report Share Posted November 18, 2011 Should be fine IF it`s been looked after.If you`re not sure you know what to look for walk away though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archi Posted November 18, 2011 Report Share Posted November 18, 2011 If looked after and in good condition and tight then is a fair price You won't get better than a Belgium browning Archi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted November 18, 2011 Report Share Posted November 18, 2011 (edited) A1s are okay, but they did not have chrome lined barrels and spares and not as easily obtained, as the more modern equivalent. For example, if you broke the stock or forend. had quite clean bores.You should be looking for spotless bores. If they aren't - walk away. For that money, you could get a very recent Miroku MK38. Edited November 18, 2011 by Gordon R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enumber Posted November 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 Cheers gents. There were very slight marks in the bores near the breech but that was all. The action was tight but he himself admitted on a gun of that age it probably will have been re-tightened at some point. The wood was lovely and the blueing was all original. He admitted himself he doesnt do much in Trap guns so isn't sure himself how fair a price it is. He's selling on behalf of a customer. I'm off to Bolton tomorrow so i'll ask around the DTL shooters there what they think. Trouble is it's so bloody far away I cant take one of the more experinced lads up with me for a second opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayano3 Posted November 19, 2011 Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 If its 'so bloody far away' and youre asking us your opinion then you should not buy it. If it goes wrong you would have to travel however far to get it fixed, The guy selling it should have a good idea as to what its worth even if its not his gun. My opinion would be to find a gun you are 100% sure of more local to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_evil Posted November 19, 2011 Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 If you want a Browning buy a new 525, you get £75 back from Browning at the mo Should add thats on the not scrolled models, I was gonna get the game one as it was £200 cheaper new than the second hand Citori GTS Elite But for the money the GTS is better value for money given that they're something like £2389 online new Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matone Posted November 19, 2011 Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 (edited) Sorry, but a 525 isn`t in the same league as a B25 A1 !The B25 A1 is a plain but top quality gun,525`s aren`t. Edited November 19, 2011 by matone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_evil Posted November 19, 2011 Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 Yes I know the B25 is hand made and a lovely gun, the shop near me has two handmades in store both with huge price tags but in excellent condition However I'm saying the 525 is a better buy at the moment especially with the money back offer, its multichoke too so he can choose a choke setup to fit rather than fixed And although it might not be the same grade wood or worksmanship on the wood the mechanism is still rock solid and thats the main point, plus it'll be steel proofed if needed and you know its not gonna be worn out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweedledee Posted November 19, 2011 Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 i would n`t even rate a new browning or should i say miroku anywhere near a handmade browning. they rarely ever go wrong. the price tag on a handmade browning is massively more than a factory produced gun. the true handmade brownings were built to last. i have shot with many of them and think highly of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike525steel Posted November 19, 2011 Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 If its tight and it fits you buy it. They are a cracking gun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike525steel Posted November 19, 2011 Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 (edited) If its tight and it fits you buy it. They are a cracking gun Edited November 19, 2011 by Mike525steel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted November 19, 2011 Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 Hi, I went into the local Gunshop near my parent house looking for a Trap Gun. He had in a Browning A1 and another Browning I can't remember what but it was a little dearer at over a grand. The A1 was Belgian made in 1969 chocked 3/4 and full. Looked to be in pretty decent nick for the age and had quite clean bores. He was after £900 for it. I know sod all about trap guns and was wondering if this was a good deal or not. You don't mention the barrel length, if it's 28" resale would be difficult, if 30" which is most likely then it's worth £900 no question, it's a near classic status Belgian Browning, hardly comparable to a factory Miroku and I'm a fan of the latter. Don't think they produced the A1 in 32" but if it is then it's underpriced by about £300. Obviously condition and tightness etc, matter a great deal but can't judge that from my sofa . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archi Posted November 19, 2011 Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 They did make a 32" A1 as one of my friends had one he us looking to sell and Is tight in vgc would buy it myself but only want one gun to use all the time for clays and game Archi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enumber Posted November 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 If its 'so bloody far away' and youre asking us your opinion then you should not buy it. If it goes wrong you would have to travel however far to get it fixed, The guy selling it should have a good idea as to what its worth even if its not his gun. My opinion would be to find a gun you are 100% sure of more local to you. I go up there every month or so anyway as that's where my parents live so no bother for me. I just meant I cant exactly take one of the local shooters along with me for a second opinion like I would be if it was a local shop. Been around a lot of the local shops and all the guns I seem to find that are in my price range are very tired looking guns that I'm definately sure arn't worth the money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enumber Posted November 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 Thanks for the opinions guys. I know it's nigh on impossible to give a decent answer without looking at the gun yourself. At least i'm slightly better prepared than I was before. I shoot a Grade 1 Browning 325 at the moment and love it, just its far to flat shooting for DTL. I have to block out the clay with the barrel and no matter how hard I try I just can't get a decent score with it. As soon a I borrow a trap gun for a detail my scores jump up dramatically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 (edited) Thanks for the opinions guys. I know it's nigh on impossible to give a decent answer without looking at the gun yourself. At least i'm slightly better prepared than I was before. I shoot a Grade 1 Browning 325 at the moment and love it, just its far to flat shooting for DTL. I have to block out the clay with the barrel and no matter how hard I try I just can't get a decent score with it. As soon a I borrow a trap gun for a detail my scores jump up dramatically. I'd hazard a guess it isn't necessarily the POI that's affecting your scores. DTL guns sold in this country do not as a rule throw particularly high. I too shoot much better with traps guns as opposed to sporters but it's the pitch and the low comb which is the main reason. The more upright picture certainly helps and the higher comb reduces the chance of head lifting. The other thing is that trap guns tend to also be a bit heavier which may help your swing. PS. what is the barrel length of the A1 you're considering? Edited November 21, 2011 by Hamster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enumber Posted November 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 It's a 30". If I don't go for this one in the end then I will probably go for a MK38 Mirokou. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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