unapalomablanca Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 I read the post about whether its legal to shoot on a beach and i wondered if its legal to shoot miles out to sea. Strictly clay targets of course, just take a couple of traps out with you!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_evil Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 In international waters I'd say yes it is legal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zabala Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 Been told that shooting clays is very popular on some cruise ships. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaxiDriver Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 Been told that shooting clays is very popular on some cruise ships. The Somalian pirates are especially keen apparently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruity Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 Been told that shooting clays is very popular on some cruise ships. I had a go at clays on a royal caribbean cruise a fair few years ago , not sure if they still do it now though with regs and safety guidlines etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catweazle Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 Many years ago someone in my club organised a shoot on some sandbank way offshore. I didn't go, so know no more details. Apparently it was legal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
storme37 Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 sounds like the goodwin sands Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yankeedoodlepigeon Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 This topic keeps popping up from time to time. I have even posted it myself. After a lot of research on this I found it is illegal to take a firearm onto a boat in British waters so getting it far enough out to shoot seems impossible. I know you used to be able to shoot clays off a boat in London and it maybe a old law. Ydp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudpatten Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 (edited) I`m not entirely sure that it is illegal to take a firearm onto a boat in British waters. I`ve been punt gunning for forty years and I can assure that that is perfectly legal, provided one has the appropriate consent and rights to shoot. Providing they have all the appropriate documentation people take guns onto ferries all the time. Edited December 4, 2011 by mudpatten Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yankeedoodlepigeon Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 That's what I thought but read that on another thread. My brother is in the coastguard so I will call him now and get him to look into it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yankeedoodlepigeon Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 And I will call my fao tomorrow I have wanted to know this for a while now so only one way to find out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ostrea Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 This topic keeps popping up from time to time. I have even posted it myself. After a lot of research on this I found it is illegal to take a firearm onto a boat in British waters so getting it far enough out to shoot seems impossible. I know you used to be able to shoot clays off a boat in London and it maybe a old law. Ydp It is not illegal to carry a firearm on a boat, I am a Skipper on a large fishing boat and talked to someone high up in the MCA about taking my guns on board shotgun and firearms, my reason for asking was that we could be tied up in a port in this country for a few days and there nay be a clay ground or shooting range nearby, his answer was that as long as i held a license kept them secure on board there was no difference to one of my crew taking his golf clubs on board. If travelling over to Irish side or Europe then the European license comes in to it. As for shooting clays i contacted BASC about this and i was told carry on and enjoy yourself, We do make sure we are beyond 12nm and with radar that will cover 48nm on board its easy to make sure that we are not upsetting anyone, after all a loud blast at sea is taken as a signal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yankeedoodlepigeon Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 12nm out is a fair way and radar that will scan 48nm isn't going to be cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unapalomablanca Posted December 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 Could you fill me in a litle regarding radar as i havent a clue about it and nm means nothing to me. regards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_evil Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 nautical miles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unapalomablanca Posted December 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 Silly me. Nautical miles of course. Still dont know how far a nm is and also know sod all about radar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yankeedoodlepigeon Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 Its just a little over a normal mile. There is a programme you can get for your pc for nothing instead of getting radar but getting internet out to 12nm will cost more than the radar itself haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ostrea Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 (edited) 12nm out is a fair way and radar that will scan 48nm isn't going to be cheap. I agree not practical on a small private craft, We have had a lot of fun on passage shooting clays, very challenging at times boat traveling at 10knots in opposite direction to the clay and usually a bit of a swell causing the boat to roll. Not sure how to post pics but will give this a go [[/img] Edited December 4, 2011 by ostrea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_evil Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 13.08 miles = 12nm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 (edited) My mate used to go shooting on one of the cross channel ferrys. A sort of booze cruise with a few clays thrown in. That was a few years ago now. Might not be so easy to land the guns in France now that they have tightened up on their regulations.Years ago they used to wander round the hypermarkets with the guns in cases over their shoulders and nobody batted an eyelid. Edited December 4, 2011 by Vince Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danny12w Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 1 nautical mile is 1852 m 1 normal mile is 1609 m Generally when working with a nautical chart you can measure 1 minute of latitude as 1 nautical mile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coolhead Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 A nautical mile is actually the distance across the surface of the Earth described by 1 minute (60th) of a degree of arc on any Great Circle path (centre of arc is centre of the earth)and the shortest distance between 2 points. It's much more useful for navigation by sea/air than a Statute Mile is. I believe it is legal to shoot in international waters but it might be rather unwise. If someone reported it at sea things might get sticky. Also if someone saw them being taken on or off board. Getting pulled over by the ARU must be rather concerning. . . .but what about a foreign warship? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arjimlad Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 Picking up the missed clays is a lot harder, I would have thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayne78 Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 We used to shoot clays from the flight deck onboard frigates and destroyers when I was in the Navy and talking to mates who are still in it still takes place. As for shooting in uk waters, in my current job at the Port of London we grant licences for boats to hold clay shoots on the river at Thamesmead. These are held pretty regularly and the Met police are informed when one is taking place for obvious reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris B123 Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 If you are interested in doing this you should speak to Steve Lovatt at the Clay shooting company, he often takes barges up the Thames for clay shooting parties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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