Livefast123 Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 I'm going to be having a FAC air slot and was thinking of converting my Falcon FN12 to FAC power. My question is once I have converted the Falcon to FAC is it possible to put it back to 12ft/lbs and for it not to be a section 1 firearm? Reason being is that I won't get many shots out of it and I imagine the resale value will be affected by being FAC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good shot? Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 I believe that once an FAC, always an FAC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad1 Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 I think you can physical change it back but as far as I know once it's fac and on ticket it will still be on ticket even if you dropped it too 10 ft ....... I might be mistaken but some one else is sure to give you there opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linny Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 [quote name='Livefast123' timestamp='1324469962' post='1622166 Reason being is that I won't get many shots out of it and I imagine the resale value will be affected by being FAC. just buy one already fac as you have said you wont get many shots from your falcon and i can imagine it will be a lot off messing about and it will affect the resale value Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 (edited) Have seen this discussion on a number of forums and 99% of FAC airguns stay as a FAC airguns but there is the odd gray area is some counties because a few FAC holders have had there airgun put back to a sub 12ftlb by a RFD, i asked in Norfolk and was told once on ticket it stays on ticket. Edited December 21, 2011 by GP1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 Dont waste your money, 12 ft lb and FAC levels both have thier uses but FAC rated guns don't sell for nearly as much second hand. Just buy a used Rapid FAC when they come along there aint a lot of buyers lining up so expect to pay 300-400 for a very nice one and you will get the shot count out of them. By definition once a firearm always a firearm till deactivated and certified as deactivated, some areas see it different but legally they are incorrect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 I changed my 16fpe TX200 back off ticket but that was 15 or so years ago. I gave the FEO the FAC piston and spring out of it and chrono'd it in front of him to show it was back under the limit. I think policy has changed now though. A proper FAC rated one is far better than an uprated sub 12 one anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livefast123 Posted December 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 Thanks for the reply guys, it kind of confirmed what I wanted to do anyway. I'll save the Falcon or maybe put it up for sale to fund a nice Rapid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet boy Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 I believe that once an FAC, always an FAC. That's correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willy1 Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 I believe that once an FAC, always an FAC. Correct. Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 Surely RFD's can put them back to none FAC...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willy1 Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 Surely RFD's can put them back to none FAC...? RFD's can reduce the power to sub 12ft/lbs,but my feo said that once an air rifle is classed as FAC rated,then it will always remain FAC, Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 RFD's can reduce the power to sub 12ft/lbs,but my feo said that once an air rifle is classed as FAC rated,then it will always remain FAC, Alan Hmmm I don't know about that it's common for RFD's to take shotguns (mainly semi) to and from FAC easily enough I don't see how an airgunner is different? Do FAC air need to be proofed? And if not why not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 Hmmm I don't know about that it's common for RFD's to take shotguns (mainly semi) to and from FAC easily enough I don't see how an airgunner is different? Do FAC air need to be proofed? And if not why not? Maybe because any particular rifle that was on FAC has been deemed 'capable', and a gun that is 'capable' of more than 12fpe is a firearm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 also, a shotgun is classed as a firearm, albeit section 2, this can be converted to section 1 and licenced accordingly, and vice versa. not sure of the reasoning behind air rifle laws but it might have something to do with 12ft/lb rifles not being on any licenceing system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 True but all air rifles are capable of over 12ft/lbs just most require significant changes ( not all tho) also most are down rated for the uk market from higher levels abroad...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 True but all air rifles are capable of over 12ft/lbs just most require significant changes ( not all tho) also most are down rated for the uk market from higher levels abroad...... also true, but once signed onto a licence etc, the police need to keep tabs on them, re-restricting them isn't enough, they soon dissapear off the radar afterwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 also true, but once signed onto a licence etc, the police need to keep tabs on them, re-restricting them isn't enough, they soon dissapear off the radar afterwards. I agree can't see why they can't go to the proof house like deacts do ( for that matter most firearms ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted December 22, 2011 Report Share Posted December 22, 2011 Its not tablets of stone that once fac always fac? some forces will allow reduced power (by an rfd) air to come off ticket, unfortunately my force wont KW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbaz Posted December 24, 2011 Report Share Posted December 24, 2011 A friend of mine was told the he could take his Rapid 7 off ticket if he had it dropped by a gunsmith so he had it adjusted down only to be told by the firearms officer that he'd made a mistake and that it would never be able to be de classified I wouldn't do it with your rifle personally Cheers, John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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