MM Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 Ok, i lay in bed last night thinking about this one. So, i buy an FAC .22 air with a power adjustable switch. This takes it from eg, 11ft lbs to 26ft lbs. Now, i have two different bits of land, one is cleared for section 1, and the other aint. Would i be able to use the FAC air rifle, with the power turned down on my non cleared land? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notsosureshot Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 (edited) I would suggest not, as the gun remains a firearm as identified by its serial number, its power output should not be relevant (following its initial designation as a firearm). Thats my guess. Edited January 14, 2012 by notsosureshot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MM Posted January 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 I would suggest not, as the gun remains a firearm as identified by its serial number, its power output should not be relevant (following its initial designation as a firearm). Thats my guess. good point. something that has made me think/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclemicky Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 (edited) Martin I have a Airarms 410 extra fac an that has 5/variable settings lowest one is 4.5lb/ft and the highest is 32lb/ft , bit of a pain when you see the pellet drop way short of the target and then you remember it was on 12ft/lb and not on 32ft/lb , so I leave it on 32ft/lb , was out last night and got 5 rabbits all were over 30 yards really good peice of kit , Edited January 14, 2012 by unclemicky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 I can't answer that 100%, but my guess would be no. Oh..... the joys of an Unrestricted FAC! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eccles Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 (edited) Why don't you ask to get open cert on it.Most forces don't seem to mind FAC on open cert.Won't hurt to ask MM Terry Agree with you there Dekers saves a lot of hassle with open cert Edited January 14, 2012 by eccles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MM Posted January 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 Martin I have a Airarms 410 extra fac an that has 5/variable settings lowest one is 4.5lb/ft and the highest is 32lb/ft , bit of a pain when you see the pellet drop way short of the target and then you remember it was on 12ft/lb and not on 32ft/lb , so I leave it on 32ft/lb , was out last night and got 5 rabbits all were over 30 yards really good peice of kit , Do you use it on any land Mick? Why don't you ask to get open cert on it.Most forces don't seem to mind FAC on open cert.Won't hurt to ask MM Terry I might just ask mate. Ive got far too much land that would benifit from an open FAC air. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclemicky Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 Do you use it on any land Mick? Yes Martin these days its either 410 pump Mossy or the fac air , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eccles Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 (edited) You should have no prob getting it on open cert.Contact your force asap just tell them your prob.Good luck Terry I hardly used use other airrifles now only the Daystate squirrels,rabbit etc you ain't got to get close for a shot mine zeroed 55yards about a inch high mid point so quite flat shooting Edited January 14, 2012 by eccles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeds chimp Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 I thought FAC air was on an "open" ticket right away and could be used on none cleared land? :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeds chimp Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 sorry i stand corrected as just read my licence and states land has to be cleared even for the FAC air Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 You can only use a gun that is registered to your FAC where the FAC states you can use it. Power levels are irrelevant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deejay Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 sorry i stand corrected as just read my licence and states land has to be cleared even for the FAC air I was also under the impression that Fac air was cleared for any land due to its low power. Daz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swiss.tony Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 I was also under the impression that Fac air was cleared for any land due to its low power. Daz wrong sorry only on land cleared unless open ticket it still classed as sec 1 so same rules apply Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deejay Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 wrong sorry only on land cleared unless open ticket it still classed as sec 1 so same rules apply Cheers Tony. I have on my cert that I am cleared for "land deemed suitable by the chief of police for that area and over land whbich I have lawful authority to shoot" . I was told that this allows me to shoot on the land that I have permission on , although I have only used my rifles to shoot on cleared land until I can get this confirmed by my FEO . Daz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.I.A Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 (edited) Cheers Tony. I have on my cert that I am cleared for "land deemed suitable by the chief of police for that area and over land whbich I have lawful authority to shoot" . I was told that this allows me to shoot on the land that I have permission on , although I have only used my rifles to shoot on cleared land until I can get this confirmed by my FEO . Daz Dont think that means its open, you still have to have the land cleared? Edited January 16, 2012 by M.I.A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckyshot Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 Cheers Tony. I have on my cert that I am cleared for "land deemed suitable by the chief of police for that area and over land whbich I have lawful authority to shoot" . I was told that this allows me to shoot on the land that I have permission on , although I have only used my rifles to shoot on cleared land until I can get this confirmed by my FEO . Daz That is a closed fac condition and you can only use it on cleared land. You will need your fac to read similar to below to use it where ever you have permission. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deejay Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 Ok cheers Gents . I wasn't too sure about that and could of found myself in a bit of trouble had I of goen where I told I could use it . Will just need to get in touch with the farmer now to get it cleared for Fac air . Daz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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