Ricko Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 Got a few mins to spare?? Read this one http://www.mapit.kk5.org/#/a-winter-hill-ufo/4545267478 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 There is one little fly in the ointment when you start talking about travelling in space at "hyper" speeds. Space is not empty, it is full of bits of debris from long dead planets. Millions of asteroids hit the earth evey day, most are no bigger than a grain of sand. Travelling at millions of miles an hour any space craft would get wiped out in seconds. Its not that there is a total vacuum either. There are atoms floating free although with a great distance between them. There have been theories about harnessing this "space wind" to provide power. The faster you go the harder you hit these things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 There's just no good reason to want to go up there . Sending the odd space craft to the moon or unmanned satellites on fact finding missions is one thing, trying to knock on alien inhabited planets doors something completely different. It's irrelevant whether you age or not on route, 500 light years is like a zillion earth years, so there'll be no earth to come back or report back to as it were. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikky Posted January 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 ricko..interesting read mikky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 ...i know what i saw...he knows what he saw...to this day i have no expdlanation mikky I have an explanation and at 12-12 am I`m sure you were just tired and emotional and it had nowt to do with drink Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ack-ack Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 Bit narrow minded to think that we are the only life forms in the entire expanse of space. Stephen Hawking's comments of late regarding alien life forms were quite unsettling. He said we should not be trying to contact alien life as it could jeopardise the future of the world much the same as European colonisation of North America did for the Native americans. I believe he can speak with more authority on the subject than anybody on here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krugerandsmith Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 well 40 yrs ago i was sitting on our back door step when i saw something hovering half a mile way....10 years later i flew on a jumbo jet thinking this is what i saw...but jumbos don t hover......so....5 yrs ago i mentioned what i had seen to my uncle....he had also seen it but being a shop steward in the local factory never mentioned it...i know what i saw...he knows what he saw...to this day i have no expdlanation mikky mikky. While working offshore ( about half a mile ) burying the newly layed gas pipeline which runs from the Point of Ayr North Wales to the Morcambe bay gas field onboard a work barge with ten other workmates our attention was drawn to two round coloured balls of light passing horizontaly between us and the shore... no more than one hundred feet away. All other support vessels anchored one mile offshore of us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
working dog Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 A few years ago on a clear night I remember witnessing flashing lights moving slowly from left to right in the distance. The lights started coming towards me, at which point I realised that it was a gritting lorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diceman Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 I cant work out where you get that info from but a few things I find hard to swallow , for a start time slows down the faster we travel , If your actually still on this planet then time will remain the same at all speeds , If your talking about travelling the speed of light then to do that you would have to leave the earth , where time is different anyway. Now even if your theory that time does slow the faster we travel then what you are saying is that our bodies then slow down to match this , which I very much doubt it . Our bodies will grow old and deteriorate as usual and no amount of speed will slow that down , So when you have been off travelling for 2 light years and 20 years( this is all just a guess) have passed down here ...........then I am sorry but your going to age with the rest of us . I do however have an open mind but believe SEEING IS BELIEVING ....... Daz Um.. it's not "my" theory deejay, it is a fact. A chap called Einstein figured out a lot of it - it is all about relativity. To the light speed traveller, time passes as normal. To the observer back on earth, time passes as normal. But relative to each other they are ageing at different rates. You can doubt it all you like and I grant you it is a difficult concept to get your head around but it is true. There is a complicated explanation here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_dilation and a thousand others on the net if you care to google but the best simplification I have read is in Brian Cox's book "Why E=mc2" It isn't just a theory either, if you take two identical atomic clocks and sync then to exactly the same time, then put one on a jet and fly it around at mach 3 for a while, it will read a different time to the clock left back on earth. This has been done any number of times. Only a tiny bit different of course, because mach 3 isn't anywhere near the speed of light, but the faster you go, the more slowly the travelling clock will tick RELATIVE to the non travelling clock. As for seeing is believing...I saw Paul Daniels cut Debbie McGee in half a few years ago...he must know a bloody good surgeon... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin128 Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 How come our astronauts have reported several sitings of UFOs??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deejay Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 Um.. it's not "my" theory deejay, it is a fact. A chap called Einstein figured out a lot of it - it is all about relativity. To the light speed traveller, time passes as normal. To the observer back on earth, time passes as normal. But relative to each other they are ageing at different rates. You can doubt it all you like and I grant you it is a difficult concept to get your head around but it is true. There is a complicated explanation here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_dilation and a thousand others on the net if you care to google but the best simplification I have read is in Brian Cox's book "Why E=mc2" It isn't just a theory either, if you take two identical atomic clocks and sync then to exactly the same time, then put one on a jet and fly it around at mach 3 for a while, it will read a different time to the clock left back on earth. This has been done any number of times. Only a tiny bit different of course, because mach 3 isn't anywhere near the speed of light, but the faster you go, the more slowly the travelling clock will tick RELATIVE to the non travelling clock. As for seeing is believing...I saw Paul Daniels cut Debbie McGee in half a few years ago...he must know a bloody good surgeon... I can get (sort of ) that time will slow down the faster we travel , but what I cant take in is that our body clocks slow down with it . What this would suggest to me that if you could travel fast enough then would the ageing process start to reverse ....mysterious case of benjiman button springs to mind . Diceman I hear what your saying but the way my brain functions (when it feels like it) I cant deal with it , as its like being told that ghosts exsist I cant accept to believe that until I see it for myself .Mental block I think its called ......could just be mental ha ha. Daz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul65 Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 I can get (sort of ) that time will slow down the faster we travel , but what I cant take in is that our body clocks slow down with it . The body clock doesn't change. The bit of space that is travelling faster has it's own time and everything in it has that same time. It becomes its own little space time system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diceman Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 (edited) I can get (sort of ) that time will slow down the faster we travel , but what I cant take in is that our body clocks slow down with it . What this would suggest to me that if you could travel fast enough then would the ageing process start to reverse ....mysterious case of benjiman button springs to mind . Diceman I hear what your saying but the way my brain functions (when it feels like it) I cant deal with it , as its like being told that ghosts exsist I cant accept to believe that until I see it for myself .Mental block I think its called ......could just be mental ha ha. Daz Your body clock isn't slowing down, because you are passing through time at the same rate as normal. The speed of time passing is only different in comparison to someone who isn't travelling at the same speed as you. If we could travel faster than the speed of light then yes you would start to get younger...but nothing can, SOL is the cosmic speed limit, so it's nothing to worry about Deejay it isn't the way you brain functions or that you are mental, it is just that we live our lives according to a certain set of rules that we experience and understand every day. Trying to reset your way of thinking to understand the way things work at speeds approaching 671 million miles per hour is not easy. (It is easier than trying to understand quantum physics, though, where for example one thing can be in two different places at the same time...) Once you do get you head around a bit of this stuff though, it is addictive and you want to learn more. Try some basic physics books on the subject...guaranteed to blow your mind, as Freddie Mercury once said... The body clock doesn't change. The bit of space that is travelling faster has it's own time and everything in it has that same time. It becomes its own little space time system. Thats what I should have said! Less typing! Edited January 19, 2012 by Diceman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikky Posted January 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 where is prof brian cox when you need him :look: mikky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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