sitsinhedges Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 Walking across fields where you don't have permission on a public footpath to get to your own permission with your gun in a slip on your shoulder and cartridges in a bag? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpk Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 I would imagine that if it's a public footpath that runs all the way you technically never are trespassing, and can carry your slipped gun. I am however not legally qualified Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
what rabbit Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deershooter Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 If the gun is in a case no and you can prove where you are going problem, open the case its "Armed Trespas" which is a criminal offence rather than a civil offence of normal trespass mind you if you could approach the land by other ways I myself would Deershooter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Harry Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 If the gun is in a case no and you can prove where you are going problem, open the case its "Armed Trespas" which is a criminal offence rather than a civil offence of normal trespass mind you if you could approach the land by other ways I myself would Deershooter Why would you go another way or the long way round when you commit no offences by walking the footpath? Shooters need to stop worrying about upseting people when all they are doing is carrying out lawful pursuits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deershooter Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 Life can always be dificult I didnt say I would walk a long way round it is normally best to avoid confrontation .You might be in the right but some people have no idea of the law and might cause trouble, on renewal the police firearms department have notification every time you have had dealing with the police Deershooter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huntsman Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 Gun in a fastened gun bag and walking on a public footpath is definitely NOT illegal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 (edited) If the gun is in a case no and you can prove where you are going problem, open the case its "Armed Trespas" Perhaps with air rifle or section 1 gun but with a section 2 shotgun it is not Armed trespass. Only becomes an offence when loaded. http://www.basc.org.uk/en/codes-of-practice/shotgun-code-of-practice.cfm It is an offence to be in possession of a loaded shotgun in a public place without lawful authority or reasonable excuse. No legal requirement to slip a shotgun when walking to from permission Good idea though Edited January 31, 2012 by HDAV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cant hit rabbits 123 Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 Perhaps with air rifle or section 1 gun but with a section 2 shotgun it is not Armed trespass. Only becomes an offence when loaded. http://www.basc.org.uk/en/codes-of-practice/shotgun-code-of-practice.cfm No legal requirement to slip a shotgun when walking to from permission Good idea though I've always thought that odd really, I can walk in a public area with an uncovered shotgun and, so long as it is unloaded, I am totally within the law. However, the police are bound to lock up anyone attempting to exercise this with the offensive weapons act or similar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warren Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 I think i would have a chat with the farmer and let him know what i was doing , this way you should be fine and might even get some more shooting out of it one day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedwards1966 Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 I've always thought that odd really, I can walk in a public area with an uncovered shotgun and, so long as it is unloaded, I am totally within the law. However, the police are bound to lock up anyone attempting to exercise this with the offensive weapons act or similar? Are you sure? I think your're wrong, i'm pretty sure it has to be in a slip. To the OP, you should be fine with it in a slip on a public footpath, as long as it's in a slip you're fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cant hit rabbits 123 Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 Are you sure? I think your're wrong, i'm pretty sure it has to be in a slip. To the OP, you should be fine with it in a slip on a public footpath, as long as it's in a slip you're fine I may well be wrong yes, but I seem to remember reading it somewhere and it stuck in my mind because I thought it odd. I'm sure someone will correct me soon though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eccles Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 Huntsman sure to be right,if not anyone walking to a gunshop from their vehicle with gun in case would be breaking the law Iv'e always thought if in a case ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yankeedoodlepigeon Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 I have never seen anyone walking to or from a shop with a un-slipped gun unless they came out with a lot of money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Harry Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 Are you sure? I think your're wrong, i'm pretty sure it has to be in a slip. To the OP, you should be fine with it in a slip on a public footpath, as long as it's in a slip you're fine You are wrong the gun does not have to be in a slip in public but should not be loaded. I am always walking the lanes with the gun and dog going to and from my land. Its just air rifles need to be covered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deershooter Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 Sorry guys I am sure it is still illegal to have an unloaded uncased Air Gun /Section 1 or 2 firearm in a public place without lawful authority just walking along a public footpath to get to your permission would not consent lawful authority as you would have no need to have it uncased Deershooter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HW682 Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 1968 Firearms Act........ http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1968/27 19 Carrying firearm in a public place.E+W+S.A person commits an offence if, without lawful authority or reasonable excuse (the proof whereof lies on him) he has with him in a public place [F45(a)a loaded shot gun, . (b )an air weapon (whether loaded or not), . (c )any other firearm (whether loaded or not) together with ammunition suitable for use in that firearm, or . (d)an imitation firearm.] no mention of being covered or not. 20 Trespassing with firearm.E+W+S.(1)A person commits an offence if, while he has a firearm [F47or imitation firearm] with him, he enters or is in any building or part of a building as a trespasser and without reasonable excuse (the proof whereof lies on him). . (2)A person commits an offence if, while he has a firearm [F47or imitation firearm] with him, he enters or is on any land as a trespasser and without reasonable excuse (the proof whereof lies on him). . (3)In subsection (2) of this section the expression “land” includes land covered with water. HW682 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david hunter Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 when in public veiw lane path whatever shotgun or air rifle should be covered and unloaded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Harry Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 Lawful authority and reasonable excuse are the key points here. I have lawful authority to possess my guns and walking between fields while out shooting is reasonable excuse. Shotgun does not need to be covered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloggs Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 (edited) Slightly off from the original post, so I do apologise but is there any problem with shotgun cleaning and practicing gun-mount in your own garden...? :unsure: Edited January 31, 2012 by Bloggs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedwards1966 Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 I have never seen anyone walking to or from a shop with a un-slipped gun unless they came out with a lot of money. Hmm, I may have done just that, but you wouldn't have seen it as these folding 410's can't be seen under my coat! Slightly off from the original post, so I do apologise but is there any problem with shotgun cleaning and practicing gun-mount in your own garden...? :unsure: I don't think so, except that you may end up getting pinned down by the armed response unit after reports from a neighbour/passer by of a lunatic with a gun! It does seem then that indeed you can have an uncovered shotgun in a public place, and if I'm walking between fields that I'm shooting on then I only need to remove the cartridges when I'm crossing over the 'public place'. I like having a folding .410, no need for a slip, just stick it under my coat... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 I have read the op several times to make sure what is being asked, ......the answer is NO! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 I've always thought that odd really, I can walk in a public area with an uncovered shotgun and, so long as it is unloaded, I am totally within the law. However, the police are bound to lock up anyone attempting to exercise this with the offensive weapons act or similar? Are you sure? I think your're wrong, i'm pretty sure it has to be in a slip. To the OP, you should be fine with it in a slip on a public footpath, as long as it's in a slip you're fine Nothing is ever as simple as it seems, the details are important, I have PERFECTLY LEGALLY shot in a Council owned PUBLIC PARK, with the full blessing, and at the request of the Council. And the park was open, there is more detail of course, but that is much worse than simply having an unsleeved gun in public. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisAsh Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 I guess its a question of ho much hassle you want from the police; and any excuse to consider your licence, for what 20 second, putting it into a slip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Harry Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 I guess its a question of ho much hassle you want from the police; and any excuse to consider your licence, for what 20 second, putting it into a slip I don't take a slip out, I take a dog, gun, cartridges and game bag. I commit no offences and if the police want to speak to me about it then let them. I am doing nothing wrong, have nothing to hide and there is nothing they can do to me. Some of you are paranoid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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