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Has anyone got any ideas of how to stop my chickens drinking water from freezing. Its only happened 3 times this year but I am already fed up of breaking the ice of and having to refill it before i go to work at 6 in the morning.

 

I am not asking some smart *** to change the molecular structure to make it freeze at a lower temperature but if anyone knows of an additive (not alcohol) or some little battery powered heater i can put in the water to make my life easier i would like to hear about it. Thanks

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Stick a small ball in it which will leave a hole big enough for them to drink from it :good:

 

Obviously you will need to remove the ball daily so they can get at it :yes:

 

I suppose if it is that cold that it all freezes as a block then I wouldn't know :hmm:

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Has anyone got any ideas of how to stop my chickens drinking water from freezing. Its only happened 3 times this year but I am already fed up of breaking the ice of and having to refill it before i go to work at 6 in the morning.

 

I am not asking some smart *** to change the molecular structure to make it freeze at a lower temperature but if anyone knows of an additive (not alcohol) or some little battery powered heater i can put in the water to make my life easier i would like to hear about it. Thanks

 

My wife bought me a safe anti-freeze additive for my bird bath/drinkers for exactly this purpose. She got it from Dobbies I think.

 

Edited to add: This stuff http://www.dobbies.com/Chapelwood-No-Ice-Bird-Bath-Anti-Freeze/pid-410839

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Nothing worked perfectly but we gave up on the round, conical type drinkers ages ago as the drinking area freezes very quickly. We now use a galvanised long metal feeder trough (ours is about 2' long and maybe 5" by 4". It still freezes overnight but stays clear all day and even on nights where it drops to zero.

 

How's this. As I'm typing (work from home) just outside the window less than 6 feet away are the following:

 

1 cock pheasant

Song Thrush

2 nuthatches

Chaffinch

2 Dunnock.

A gang of blue tits and great tits

Coal ***

Lesser spotted woodpecker and a greater that keeps flying in and out from the feeders.

Couple of blackbirds

Goldcrest

Wren

and some Robins defending their territories

 

It's like Piccadilly circus on the feeders and difficult to concentrate on work.

 

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just noticed you can say tits but not *** :lol:

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Nothing worked perfectly but we gave up on the round, conical type drinkers ages ago as the drinking area freezes very quickly. We now use a galvanised long metal feeder trough (ours is about 2' long and maybe 5" by 4". It still freezes overnight but stays clear all day and even on nights where it drops to zero.

 

How's this. As I'm typing (work from home) just outside the window less than 6 feet away are the following:

 

1 cock pheasant

Song Thrush

2 nuthatches

Chaffinch

2 Dunnock.

A gang of blue tits and great tits

Coal ***

Lesser spotted woodpecker and a greater that keeps flying in and out from the feeders.

Couple of blackbirds

Goldcrest

Wren

and some Robins defending their territories

 

It's like Piccadilly circus on the feeders and difficult to concentrate on work.

 

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just noticed you can say tits but not *** :lol:

 

 

Thats quite a rarity now...where abouts are you.? I assume reasonably large, dense Broadleaf woodland nearby... Be interesting to know for the BTO BBS atlas...

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Thats quite a rarity now...where abouts are you.? I assume reasonably large, dense Broadleaf woodland nearby... Be interesting to know for the BTO BBS atlas...

 

I'm in Surrey about 5 miles south east of Guildford. Loads of broad leaf woodland around as we are just under the north downs. We've got two nut feeders in the garden and I reckon both lesser and greater visit them more than half a dozen times a day. The area is also teaming with Green Woodpeckers.

Last year one of the Greater Spotted took apart a fascia board on the garage to get to a blue tits nest and babies - first time I'd seen that happen.

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Thanks everyone, i think i will change the drinker and maybe this additive.

 

I know what you say about being bothered to keep them, but really at 6 in the morning the last thing i want to be doing is smashing the ice off and getting covered in water as it does eventually let go and spill everywhere. I should add my garden isnt actually behind my house its about 100 yards away then 100 meters long, I am lazy i know

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my hens have one of those bell type water things.......and the ferret has a dog bowl in his hutch.....both need bringing in and running under running water and refilling everyday, only takes a couple of minutes

 

the running water is to melt the ice that they are inevitably filled with everyday

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My wife bought me a safe anti-freeze additive for my bird bath/drinkers for exactly this purpose. She got it from Dobbies I think.

 

Edited to add: This stuff http://www.dobbies.com/Chapelwood-No-Ice-Bird-Bath-Anti-Freeze/pid-410839

 

 

Anyone know if this stuff is safe to use in ferret's water? I have the same problem with their water bottles. I can keep the bottles insulated but the ball in the nozzle freezes. I thaw them out 3 times a day but they're always thirsty in the morning. I hope they're getting enough water.

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Just searched the net and can't find what is in this stuff. Some other folks have asked if it's safe for chickens and they got this reply from the manufacturer:

 

Reply:

I have spoken to the manufacturer of this product who has stated that whilst it would be totally safe for laying chickens, using it in this way would cause ChapelWood ‘No Ice’ to become part of the food chain, which would require registration as an animal feed. On that basis I’m afraid that we can’t recommend it for that use.

 

The RSPB don't recommend adding any chemicals to the water, and whether the product is natural, eco-friendly or any other such nonsense term it will still be a chemical or mixture of chemicals. That said, any chemical will lower the freezing point of water a little so a sugar solution might give you a degree of two more - but probably not worth it. I'm sure birds would be fine with added glycerol but you would have to add a lot to keep the water from freezing and then it probably wouldn't do the birds any good at all. One thing the RSPB does suggest is a sheltered night light under a metal container, if you are really keen!

 

The simple answer and cheapest is change the water as frequently as you can. After all, in the wild the birds and mammals would have to search out tiny areas of unfrozen water. The other approach is to give food with a high liquid content e.g. mash in stead of dry food. The daughter's guinea pig, and our chickens, love left over cooked peas which are full of water ... and so on.

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Hi

 

I do not know what your water container is like, but could you not place a biscuit tin underneath place a couple of night lights in the tin and light them. They last for about 6-8 hours, and provided the gap between the top of the tin and the water conatiners is not too big they should stay alight all night.

 

Terry

 

Sorry just read above

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Just change it daily you lazy sod....Chickens deserve respect like every other livestock...

 

If you cant be bothered to look after them properly you should have them... :lol:

 

How do you think farmers managed 100 years ago ?

 

Rant over... :lol:

dont know about 100 years ago they still breaking the ice on our farm now

 

colin

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All i do is boil up a kettle of water and pour this into their water bowl before i leave the house in the morning.It defrosts the ice quickly and by time they wake up the water has cooled down sufficently so they dont burn themselves.

 

:good:

 

We done this for years. no big deal :good:

 

Paladin

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