Smog On Tyne Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 Just had a visit from firearms. They have revoked my licence and removed my gun and ammo. Reason...... Me and my wife were referred to marriage counciling in 2004 & 2007. Apparently this is classed as mental health issues!!! Only had licence a week had not had chance to join BASC so going to citizens advice tomorrow. Anyone else had similar problems... Biggest problem is deciding wether to appeal as a guy in sporting gun article mentioned £7000 court costs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boromir Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 Did you declare it on your Application? If not how did they know about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swiss.tony Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 Just had a visit from firearms. They have revoked my licence and removed my gun and ammo. Reason...... Me and my wife were referred to marriage counciling in 2004 & 2007. Apparently this is classed as mental health issues!!! Only had licence a week had not had chance to join BASC so going to citizens advice tomorrow. Anyone else had similar problems... Biggest problem is deciding wether to appeal as a guy in sporting gun article mentioned £7000 court costs eh 1 week and you lost it all ready something dont sound rite wood they have not all ready done all there back ground checks on you tell us more details Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smog On Tyne Posted February 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 Did you declare it on your Application? If not how did they know about it? My doctor told them when the firearms dept checked medical records Gutted.................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smog On Tyne Posted February 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 Northumbria police issued the licence without the doctors report, the cops who came out had a load of letters so I am not the last today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockercas Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 still contact basc mate. they should still help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smog On Tyne Posted February 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 still contact basc mate. they should still help Yeah tried have to ring tomorrow no one available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 This sounds very concerning. Hope you get it resolved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 Seems a bit harsh. Not sure how they can class marriage counciling as a mental health issue per se? Unless your Dr. put you on anti depressants? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardo Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 unless there was a mental health issue - how come your doctor had any involvement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boromir Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 Yes BASC is your best shot at the moment. They have probably took it away from you because they thought you were hiding/lying about something. If you declared it they would of gave you a yes/no decision before the arrival of the certificate. But question to the forum aint the FEO supposed to do the checks before they send you the SGC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smog On Tyne Posted February 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 Never taken any medication, 2004 I walked into a clinic met two nurses they didn't know why I was there and sent me to relate. 2007 they sent me to another marriage council session. Only went once Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockercas Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 Yeah tried have to ring tomorrow no one available try again and i want to know if they are willing to help or not, did the police take the guns or did a mate come get them of did you rfd them. and is there anything your not telling us that in 3 pages is going to make us change our minds about you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smog On Tyne Posted February 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 Nothing to hide mate, we were told doctors could refer us to marriage counseling instead of paying (at the time we were on bones of our **** money wise). They two cops have removed my gun and 499 cartridges into storage. They remain my property until I appeal or until someone else collects who is a SGC holder. Am gutted I am a manager of a million pound turnover business dealing with the police on a daily basis. I am even due at Crown Court 27th of this month as a witness for the police against some metal thieves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardo Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 I'm just playing devils advocate, but why should BASC help if you're not a member? Surely you'd want cover/insurance in place before you get a shotgun not after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smog On Tyne Posted February 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 I'm just playing devils advocate, but why should BASC help if you're not a member? Surely you'd want cover/insurance in place before you get a shotgun not after. Father in law has being shooting 30 years and never had/needed insurance so I was caught in two minds regarding basc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlaserF3 Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 I would give this http://lewisnedas.co.uk/expertise/firearms-law/ company a call. They will advise you free for 30 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulpicide Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 This is why I tell people to join a shooting organisation BEFORE they apply. Pm me and I will try and help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 If you are genuinely asking for help / advice etc, I believe that you need to tell us the facts. If you don't tell us the full script, any opinion isn't worth a bean. Never taken any medication, 2004 I walked into a clinic met two nurses they didn't know why I was there and sent me to relate. 2007 they sent me to another marriage council session. Only went once You dismiss the medical side of this fairly lightly, but there has to be something serious enough to warrant the removal of your SGC. The scenario you cite above is vague - to be charitable. Forgive my cynicism, as these threads crop up every now and then. By about page 6, we might be in possession of half the facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swiss.tony Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 I would give this http://lewisnedas.co.uk/expertise/firearms-law/ company a call. They will advise you free for 30 minutes. 30 mins free then take your pants down and rape you over the desk about 15 times 100 quid for 30 mins ill guess at it will cost a forture to go court and fight best of saying to hell with them and take up fishing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 swiss.tony - I thought I was a cynic, but I bow to the master. :lol: :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 (edited) The grounds on which a shotgun certificate may be revoked are different from those for the revocation of a firearm certificate. The grounds for revocation of a shotgun certificate are satisfied if the chief constable is satisfied either: a. that the certificate holder is prohibited from possessing a shotgun; or b. that the certificate holder cannot be permitted to possess a shotgun without danger to public safety or the peace. What is a prohibited person? A person who has been sentenced to imprisonment, detention or corrective training for a term of three years or more, is permanently prohibited from having any firearms or ammunition in their possession. This means for life and includes all firearms, even air weapons. A person sentenced to imprisonment, detention or corrective training for a period of over three months but less than three years is prohibited from possessing firearms and ammunition for five years from date of release. From what you've said you're not a prohibited person, and don't pose a danger to the public or the peace. It's the chief constable who authorises a revocation. If I was you I'd write to him and ask for his reasons for the revocation - get something in writing, before taking it any further. Edited February 6, 2012 by poontang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yankeedoodlepigeon Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 I'm sure BASC won't help unless you were already a member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedd-wyn Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 That sounds very harsh. I was reading a thread on PW the other day about a chap who had a history of depression, but still got his SGC. As long as you declare it and, it isn't a serious mental health issue it should be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Potter Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 I'm just playing devils advocate, but why should BASC help if you're not a member? Surely you'd want cover/insurance in place before you get a shotgun not after. I'm with you on this Nick, might as well not renew my membership if non-members are going to get the benefits, think I'll jack the old RAC in as well, I'm sure they'll come out to me if I'm in need Whilst on the face of it Smog on the Tyne has been hard done by and on that basis should get his cert back sooner rather than later, but still don't see why BASC should help other than perhaps some "over the phone" advice or if the case is worth pursuing because they feel the case is unusual enough to help the paying membership in the future. Potter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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