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Im looking at buying a certain new air rifle,

browsing on Guntrader I can save £40 off the price my local RFD wants BUT the better offer is an RFD in Warwickshire.

 

Now IF I have understood it correctly under the VCR Act an RFD cannot supply me mail order :( Although a private individual can sell and air rifle and send it by post quite legally (as I have done in the past)

What really wrankles is paying over the odds at my local RFD

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Have you approached local dealer and suggested they match the deal?

 

Not yet on this item but have in the past on different things

 

Will he do a price match, if the warickshire rfd is making a profit at that price then so should your local one. See if he has a spare seat :oops:

 

the man says he'll have a look, wait, He's found one, hidden behind the hide poles :P

 

 

Im sure some one on the Forum near warwick might buy it and post it to you. :yes:

 

Would you believe, I hadn't thought of that ;)

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Never understood why some enterprising dealer doesn't have a "friend" who,upon receiving payment from you and a TXT message asking him to do so,would simply pick up the gun and post it for you-SD next day insured is £23.Not illegal surely?

By the time you pay £23 in postage that's severely eating into the £40 you've saved. If you can get your local man to knock just £20 off you're in profit.

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By the time you pay £23 in postage that's severely eating into the £40 you've saved. If you can get your local man to knock just £20 off you're in profit.

As I said,

last time I posted a full size air rifle all boxed up it cost me £11 or £11.50 by Royal Mail Parcels, insured upto a value of £250

So, still quite a saving over a local RFD.

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You buy from an RFD and they charge £25-£30 to post it to your nearest RFD who then charge you the same for receiving it and doing any paper work-thats an additional £50+ in my book.If the gun in question is a £200 second hand jobby then thats an expense you could do without.A "friend" local to the shop could save you a considerable sum surely?And you can send a gun cheaper if you dont want next day-as TD states its about £12. :look:

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Airguns

Violent Crime Reduction Act 2006

s32 Sales of air weapons by way of trade or business to be face to face

(1) This section applies where a person sells an air weapon by way of trade or

business to an individual in Great Britain who is not registered as a firearms

dealer.

(2) A person is guilty of an offence if, for the purposes of the sale, he transfers

possession of the air weapon to the buyer otherwise than at a time when both—

(a) the buyer, and

b either the seller or a representative of his,

are present in person.

(3) The reference in subsection (2) to a representative of the seller is a reference

to—

(a) a person who is employed by the seller in his business as a registered

firearms dealer;

b a registered firearms dealer who has been authorised by the seller to act

on his behalf in relation to the sale; or

c a person who is employed by a person falling within paragraph b in

his business as a registered firearms dealer.

(4) A person guilty of an offence under this section shall be liable—

(a) on summary conviction in England and Wales, to imprisonment for a

term not exceeding 51 weeks or to a fine not exceeding level 5 on the

standard scale, or to both; and

b on summary conviction in Scotland, to imprisonment for a term not

exceeding 12 months or to a fine not exceeding level 5 on the standard

scale, or to both.

(5) In relation to an offence committed before the commencement of section 281(5)

of the Criminal Justice Act 2003 (c. 44), the reference in subsection (4)(a) of this

section to 51 weeks is to be read as a reference to 6 months.

 

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Airguns

Violent Crime Reduction Act 2006

s32 Sales of air weapons by way of trade or business to be face to face

(1) This section applies where a person sells an air weapon by way of trade or

business to an individual in Great Britain who is not registered as a firearms

dealer.

(2) A person is guilty of an offence if, for the purposes of the sale, he transfers

possession of the air weapon to the buyer otherwise than at a time when both—

(a) the buyer, and

b either the seller or a representative of his,

are present in person.

(3) The reference in subsection (2) to a representative of the seller is a reference

to—

(a) a person who is employed by the seller in his business as a registered

firearms dealer;

b a registered firearms dealer who has been authorised by the seller to act

on his behalf in relation to the sale; or

c a person who is employed by a person falling within paragraph b in

his business as a registered firearms dealer.

(4) A person guilty of an offence under this section shall be liable—

(a) on summary conviction in England and Wales, to imprisonment for a

term not exceeding 51 weeks or to a fine not exceeding level 5 on the

standard scale, or to both; and

b on summary conviction in Scotland, to imprisonment for a term not

exceeding 12 months or to a fine not exceeding level 5 on the standard

scale, or to both.

(5) In relation to an offence committed before the commencement of section 281(5)

of the Criminal Justice Act 2003 (c. 44), the reference in subsection (4)(a) of this

section to 51 weeks is to be read as a reference to 6 months.

:blink:

 

That's exactly the legislation, And it's exactly the legislation that is a nonsense, The seller cannot sell me the air gun and send it to me, however a well meaning friend could go in and buy it on my behalf and send it me,

Or I could buy it over the phone/internet and pay for it have it collected by an individual on my behalf and then send it to me.

 

Anyways, had a bit of a result today, asked my prefered RFD if that was the best price he could do and told him what I hoped to pay, he came back with a price only £5 more than what I wanted to pay :good: So deal done, when I went to collect, instead of a 4x32 scope, It comes with a 3-9x40 AO scope :good: :good:

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That's exactly the legislation, And it's exactly the legislation that is a nonsense, The seller cannot sell me the air gun and send it to me, however a well meaning friend could go in and buy it on my behalf and send it me,

Or I could buy it over the phone/internet and pay for it have it collected by an individual on my behalf and then send it to me.

 

Anyways, had a bit of a result today, asked my prefered RFD if that was the best price he could do and told him what I hoped to pay, he came back with a price only £5 more than what I wanted to pay :good: So deal done, when I went to collect, instead of a 4x32 scope, It comes with a 3-9x40 AO scope :good: :good:

 

I have never got any discount off any cab fare I had to pay….

Change gun shops or pay up…..

The word RFD is quite boring….I have been “going up the gun shop” for 40 years and support them with my business and it reflects in my bills.

Next people will be calling the chip shop a, FF&FP connivance…..

Fried Fish & Fried Potato connivance……….

 

TEH

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