pigeon slayer Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 iv resently been given some slugs for 12 g reloading. i have loaded some up but the slugs dont seem to fit down the barrel. are they safe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 Are they legal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huffhuff Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 (edited) iv resently been given some slugs for 12 g reloading. i have loaded some up but the slugs dont seem to fit down the barrel. are they safe? Do you have slug and it's use defined on your firearms certificate? Edited March 7, 2012 by huffhuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWD Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 Unless you have a sec 1 cert ... . Think anything with 6 or less pellets in over a certain size is section 1 ammo. Re slugs...do they travel in a sabot to allow for the choking,unless its a rifled barrel .No doubt someone knows on this forum for sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pointer Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 Melt them down for fishing weights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CZ550Kevlar Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 it would appear you have little or no knowledge of what you are doing, if i was you i would take a step back then walk away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beretta28g Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 If they are not held on a FAC be very careful because you would be breaking the law. If they are held on FAC you would be advised to ask someone for help who has actually reloaded these slugs before. What are you gonna be using them for, id have thought they can be very dangerous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 i once saw 12 gauge slugs used on a runaway bullock by a police marksman, the poor bl---- beast took two through the top of his nose before maty got it together for the third shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CZ550Kevlar Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 we all know the police can`t shoot for toffee anyway, they do a charity shoot in Kent and i`m surprised they even bother turning up, oh and they cheat too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy198712 Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 have you got a slug barrel to shoot them through? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huffhuff Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 (edited) have you got a slug barrel to shoot them through? You don't necessarily need a rifled barrel. It depends on what gun he has, the type and size of choke used and which slug he's using. The real question is does he have slug (S1 ammo) on his FAC (assuming he has one of those too). Now I'm no reloader, but he seems to be asking some seemingly basic questions so I'd be more concerned about that. Edited March 8, 2012 by huffhuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silpig5 Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 iv resently been given some slugs for 12 g reloading. i have loaded some up but the slugs dont seem to fit down the barrel. are they safe? without being patronizing , please do not reload these slugs , as said before use them for fishing or the like , there is a strong chance of IF you get this wrong you are gonna do your self and any one around you some real or fatal harm . you know it makes sense , if your unsure the rule of thumb is dont do it and walk away alive . stay safe adi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 1. Dangerous 2. Illegal What's not to like? Go the whole hog and get friends round, some beer in and maybe some fireworks (oh and a bonfire). Rock'n'roll Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silpig5 Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 1. Dangerous 2. Illegal What's not to like? Go the whole hog and get friends round, some beer in and maybe some fireworks (oh and a bonfire). Rock'n'roll :lol: :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.I.A Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 Gonna give the chap the benefit of doubt here, why we all jumping the gun on this? Surely as a sgc holder he will know he can't be in possession of loaded slugs without an fac. Could be wrong but who knows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southeastpete Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 1. Dangerous 2. Illegal What's not to like? Go the whole hog and get friends round, some beer in and maybe some fireworks (oh and a bonfire). Rock'n'roll it's be a new clip for that video in the other thread, people hurting themselves... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Chamber Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 iv resently been given some slugs for 12 g reloading. i have loaded some up but the slugs dont seem to fit down the barrel. are they safe? ...and Jesus wept.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 just buy a reloading book. less dangerous, exept papercuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedwards1966 Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 Perhaps everyone should stop jumping on him without checking the facts first, for all we know he have have a FAC with an allowance for slugs. I can't really answer the question as don't have any experience of slugs, however if they don't fit through the end of the barrel I'd be rather worried and would ask someone who knows more about it, probably from a reloading book, or perhaps a RFD might be able to advise. It might be that you're choke is too tight perhaps? And as I understand it, you don't need a rifled barrel, as some slugs are rifled themselves for smooth barrels, while other slugs are smooth for rifled barrels. It's just a matter having either a rifled barrel OR rifled slug. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 just buy a reloading book. less dangerous, exept papercuts. ig he buys a reloading book on slugs it will tell him how to do it. yes slugs are tight in the bore sometimes. some cant be pushed down a barrel. but firing these with 2000+ ftlbs is going to make it down the barrel. the original poster should just buy a book, i did many moons ago and it has been a joy to read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 You don't necessarily need a rifled barrel. It depends on what gun he has, the type and size of choke used and which slug he's using. The real question is does he have slug (S1 ammo) on his FAC (assuming he has one of those too). Now I'm no reloader, but he seems to be asking some seemingly basic questions so I'd be more concerned about that. i have seen some slugs with rifling on the slug. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huffhuff Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 i have seen some slugs with rifling on the slug. Yep, so have I. The brenneke or foster slug - what's your point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 Yep, so have I. The brenneke or foster slug - what's your point? my point is, would the rifled slug be only for a smooth bore, and not intended for a rifled barrel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breastman Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 There is no such thing as a 'rifled' slug in the sense that it is actual rifling designed to impart spin, this is a simple marketing ploy. The fins on some slugs (right hand slug below) are there solely to allow for compression when fired through a multi-choke gun. Although i have seen a finned slug go through a full choke i personally wouldn't recommend using them in any more than 1/2 (modified). If you're using non-finned slugs i wouldn't go over 1/4 (Improved cylinder). In any case you will normally find accuracy increases the more open the choke you us is. Simple possession of the slugs is not an offence unless they're specifically designed to expand on impact, exactly the same a rifle ammo. He would only be in trouble once he made them up into live cartridges. (If he didn't have an appropriately conditioned FAC). You cannot put a rifled barrel onto a semi or pump-action shotgun legally in this country as that would make it a Section 5 firearm (as under UK legislation it would become a full-bore semi/pump rifle). Putting one on an O/U or SbS would make it a Section 1 gun, but as far as i'm aware you have to use sabot ammunition with a rifled barrel which, again, as far as i'm aware is Section 5 (prohibited). So there's no real point arguing about something that isn't going to happen :blink: Although i've never tried it myself (as slug ammo is too damn expensive to cut apart to fanny about with), i would be surprised if the slugs would just drop straight through the barrel, but as others have said, it doesn't sound like the OP knows what he's doing so should get some training before messing around with them. ATB Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 There is no such thing as a 'rifled' slug in the sense that it is actual rifling designed to impart spin, this is a simple marketing ploy. The fins on some slugs (right hand slug below) are there solely to allow for compression when fired through a multi-choke gun. Although i have seen a finned slug go through a full choke i personally wouldn't recommend using them in any more than 1/2 (modified). If you're using non-finned slugs i wouldn't go over 1/4 (Improved cylinder). In any case you will normally find accuracy increases the more open the choke you us is. Simple possession of the slugs is not an offence unless they're specifically designed to expand on impact, exactly the same a rifle ammo. He would only be in trouble once he made them up into live cartridges. (If he didn't have an appropriately conditioned FAC). You cannot put a rifled barrel onto a semi or pump-action shotgun legally in this country as that would make it a Section 5 firearm (as under UK legislation it would become a full-bore semi/pump rifle). Putting one on an O/U or SbS would make it a Section 1 gun, but as far as i'm aware you have to use sabot ammunition with a rifled barrel which, again, as far as i'm aware is Section 5 (prohibited). So there's no real point arguing about something that isn't going to happen :blink: Although i've never tried it myself (as slug ammo is too damn expensive to cut apart to fanny about with), i would be surprised if the slugs would just drop straight through the barrel, but as others have said, it doesn't sound like the OP knows what he's doing so should get some training before messing around with them. ATB Mark There is no such thing as a 'rifled' slug in the sense that it is actual rifling designed to impart spin, this is a simple marketing ploy. The fins on some slugs (right hand slug below) are there solely to allow for compression when fired through a multi-choke gun. Although i have seen a finned slug go through a full choke i personally wouldn't recommend using them in any more than 1/2 (modified). If you're using non-finned slugs i wouldn't go over 1/4 (Improved cylinder). In any case you will normally find accuracy increases the more open the choke you us is. Simple possession of the slugs is not an offence unless they're specifically designed to expand on impact, exactly the same a rifle ammo. He would only be in trouble once he made them up into live cartridges. (If he didn't have an appropriately conditioned FAC). You cannot put a rifled barrel onto a semi or pump-action shotgun legally in this country as that would make it a Section 5 firearm (as under UK legislation it would become a full-bore semi/pump rifle). Putting one on an O/U or SbS would make it a Section 1 gun, but as far as i'm aware you have to use sabot ammunition with a rifled barrel which, again, as far as i'm aware is Section 5 (prohibited). So there's no real point arguing about something that isn't going to happen :blink: Although i've never tried it myself (as slug ammo is too damn expensive to cut apart to fanny about with), i would be surprised if the slugs would just drop straight through the barrel, but as others have said, it doesn't sound like the OP knows what he's doing so should get some training before messing around with them. ATB Mark i wouldnt want to be hit by one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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