Salop Matt Posted April 29, 2012 Report Share Posted April 29, 2012 As above folks what other pellets should I look at for a 28-30fpe Daystate other than bisley magnums ? It's going to be in .22 and I want to keep the pellet soft and light to get max energy transfer and break-up in impact rather than the heavy solid form of the bis mag being mor like a .22lr round. So what do you recommend ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewj Posted April 29, 2012 Report Share Posted April 29, 2012 crosman premier rabbit mags look at the range of h&n pellets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruity Posted April 29, 2012 Report Share Posted April 29, 2012 As above h+n rabbit magnums Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rapid12 Posted April 29, 2012 Report Share Posted April 29, 2012 h&n ftt worked well in my rapid7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
30-6 Posted April 29, 2012 Report Share Posted April 29, 2012 Air Arms field plus - 18g, same pellet as AA fields but a little bit longer. 18g instead of 16g. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salop Matt Posted April 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2012 Guys, I have to ask because I may of missed something here. My sub 12fpe air rifle will happily put 10 shots in a sub half inch group at its zero of 35 yards which is great and spot on for hunting with. How ever it seems that with FAC air a zero of 50 yards is average how ever by the sounds of things a good group at this range appears to be one and a half inches, which to me isn't very good performance and iffy for hunting to. I was expecting at 50 yards zero to hear that a half inch group was run of the mill and possibly clover leafing not uncommon for a good FAC air rifle at 50 yards. So what is the truth about FAC air accuracy ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
durbsguy Posted April 29, 2012 Report Share Posted April 29, 2012 My Airwolf is fac in .177 which I think shoots around the 18fpe groups at around an inch or smaller, to be honest I at that distance the 22 Browning comes out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick miller Posted April 29, 2012 Report Share Posted April 29, 2012 Are you sure the pellets are not clipping the silencer? Look for tell-tale streaks at the muzzle. My rapid is running at 30.8fpe and 806fps will put pellets in 2p group at 46 yards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salop Matt Posted April 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2012 MM am just repeating what i read, i don't currently own a FAC air rifle have a slot and am looking at buying quality daystate cut would expect sub one inch at 50 yards and nod inch at 65 yards bench rested if i do my bit ! I thought FAC air would cover me to 65 yards for head shooting bunnys but am starting to doubt it now from what folk are saying. Am looking for something quiter than the HMR with more poke than a standard air rifle and a 22lr is out of the question ! Iv visited that already ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salop Matt Posted April 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2012 Also MM i suspect on a still day my standard daystate would match your fac accuracy wise just not as powerfully ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick miller Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 Well another choice could be the 18 grain jsb exact heavy, sorry for the misunderstanding by the way, but I haven't used these in the rapid. FAC air fills the odd niche you describe, I use mine in areas where the risk of ricochet from a .22lr is too great, or the area is too small, the trajectory of the FAC air is flatter out to 50 yards so I don't have to consider holdover until I want to shoot further (so I don't) although 65 yards is easily possible provided you research your aim points. It's a worthy addition to the cabinet although like any air rifle they are pellet fussy and you need to see which pellet suits yours and gives the best results. The benefit of FAC I think is not so much the increased range, but the combination of a flatter trajectory coupled to stopping power, you can be less precise in your placement as pretty much a shot at a rabbit head will result in a clean kill or a incapacitating injury, allowing a second shot or a pick up and chin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eccles Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 Hi i use a Daystate Ranger 40lb been using AA 16gr lately and are great.I thought hard about getting a FAC airrifle but its been a great addition.Its zeroed at 55y and is very accurate,and shot loads of rabbits, head shooting squirrels 50y + no prob.For someone with plenty of shooting well worth buying. Use mine round the farm houses,stock etc.Does not disturb anything or anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon6ppc Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 ive a rapid 40ftlb , use air arms 16 grain.it shoots brilliant.alot of shooters always tell you that there best group ever is there average,but a good fac gun and shooter should do thumb nails at 40 for fun to be honest... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweedledee Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 made a one hundred yard head shot on a bunny with jsb exact last Sunday.would nt use anything else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peek-at Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 Guys, I have to ask because I may of missed something here. My sub 12fpe air rifle will happily put 10 shots in a sub half inch group at its zero of 35 yards which is great and spot on for hunting with. How ever it seems that with FAC air a zero of 50 yards is average how ever by the sounds of things a good group at this range appears to be one and a half inches, which to me isn't very good performance and iffy for hunting to. I was expecting at 50 yards zero to hear that a half inch group was run of the mill and possibly clover leafing not uncommon for a good FAC air rifle at 50 yards. So what is the truth about FAC air accuracy ? whoever it is getting 1.5 inch groups at 50 yds really needs to change their rifle/ammo or just open their eyes when shooting. I have an Airarms s410 xtra Fac with Bisley Mags and I can easily do headshots at 70yds and at 50yds I would be upset if my pellets did not form a cloverleaf pattern.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pabs Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 No no no. Even in FAC, shooting beyond 60 yards is impossible. These people have done/not done it. To think that an air rifle can shoot beyond 40 yards is crazy. If you need more than 40, then centre fire is the way to go. For fudge sake, think of the quarry!! They need at least 100 ftlb on target, otherwise the Gods of hunting will spank your botty and make your barrel boomerang shaped.... :unsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick miller Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 (edited) Well, even I managed to shoot one today at 62 yards with the Bisley Magnums, so I guess anyone can. One question though (as I've never used regular .22 pellets in my FAC rapid) are there any issues with using lighter pellets like 14.8gn H&N FTT's out to 50 plus yards in FAC? Are they more wind affected? They would certainly travel faster/ flatter. Edited April 30, 2012 by mick miller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peek-at Posted May 1, 2012 Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 No no no. Even in FAC, shooting beyond 60 yards is impossible. These people have done/not done it. To think that an air rifle can shoot beyond 40 yards is crazy. If you need more than 40, then centre fire is the way to go. For fudge sake, think of the quarry!! They need at least 100 ftlb on target, otherwise the Gods of hunting will spank your botty and make your barrel boomerang shaped.... :unsure: I guess you are the one that needs to change his rifle/ammo or just open your eyes. Of course you can shoot beyond 60 yds with FAC air & accurately to boot! As I said, headshots at 70yds no problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhyspigeon67 Posted May 1, 2012 Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 No no no. Even in FAC, shooting beyond 60 yards is impossible. These people have done/not done it. To think that an air rifle can shoot beyond 40 yards is crazy. If you need more than 40, then centre fire is the way to go. For fudge sake, think of the quarry!! They need at least 100 ftlb on target, otherwise the Gods of hunting will spank your botty and make your barrel boomerang shaped.... :unsure: 100ftlb to kill a rabbit? your joking right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
click Posted May 1, 2012 Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 Also MM i suspect on a still day my standard daystate would match your fac accuracy wise just not as powerfully ! It looks to me like you've started this thread to cause an argument I have a Fac Falcon which is running at just over 31ftlb and can hit an inch target at 60yds all day long with Bisley Magnums! Best shot to date is a Squirrel out of a 35ft plus Oak tree. After pacing it out it was 73yrds and there weren't a lot of wriggling going on as it fell :o Also had Bunnys and Carrions to 60yds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ant8681 Posted May 1, 2012 Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 100ftlb to kill a rabbit? your joking right? I had a rabbit at 25 yards with my crosman 2240 pistol, not sure what it is but its not 100ftlbs for sure!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
click Posted May 1, 2012 Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 I had a rabbit at 25 yards with my crosman 2240 pistol, not sure what it is but its not 100ftlbs for sure!! Your supposed to put pellets through it mate, not throw the whole pistol at it :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pabs Posted May 1, 2012 Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 Oh Chaps, really.... Hell yes you can shoot 60+ yards with a FAC air rifle. I tried to make my wee take extremely obvious...... Though I do still stand by my statement that 100ftlb (ideally 1000ftlb) is needed before the rabbit will fall. Don't forget, they have Dragon Skin armour. Sheesh, you guys are no fun at all....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted May 1, 2012 Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 Bagged me a 80+ yard magpie yesterday with S510 FAC, allowing for wind and everything, but I am rather good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ant8681 Posted May 1, 2012 Report Share Posted May 1, 2012 Your supposed to put pellets through it mate, not throw the whole pistol at it :blink: It was more acurate than your shotgun!!! Sorry that was below the belt! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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