PigeonEater Posted May 8, 2012 Report Share Posted May 8, 2012 Hi I keep birds in the garden, chickens and kings etc. The other week i needed to nip out and couldnt get all the birds in and i wasnt out long anyway so i thought its ok i'll leave the door open. Got back and it was like a scene from a war movie. Blood, feathers and dead birds everywhere. The ****** had eaten all the eggs out of the nests and all the young, and looks to have just killed and played with the rest. The next night i sat out, and when Mr Fox returned, i cornered him in the coop, grabbed him by the scruff on the neck and slit his throat. He died instantly and did not suffer. The next few nights nothing, and then another in the now converted chicken coop/fox trap. This time i spied a neighbour watching me so i let it go. I cant find the legal implication to this anywhere. The foxes are trapped and dispatched quickly. Am i allowed to do this in my back garden? I also have an open ticket, am i allowed to shoot them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted May 8, 2012 Report Share Posted May 8, 2012 its legal but best done out of eyesight. Not sure I'd get as close to scruffing and throat slitting but certainly speedy despatch is the name of the game. As for shooting then yes its legal with an open ticket if you can do it safely with the relevant conditions on your ticket for foxes. But as to whether its a wise idea depends on your neighbours and specific garden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PigeonEater Posted May 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2012 Not sure I'd get as close to scruffing and throat slitting The first one was personal!! The Kings especially were like pets, when i went out in the garden they would fly down etc. Proper miss em haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camokid Posted May 8, 2012 Report Share Posted May 8, 2012 **** grabbing it round the scruff hat of to ya mate lol :lol: :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PigeonEater Posted May 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2012 **** grabbing it round the scruff hat of to ya mate lol :lol: :lol: haha it was in the coop and when i went in it jumped onto a hutch in the corner. It was ****in **** scared and only a smallish bitch. From grabbin it to cuttin it cant be more than a few seconds. I just grabbed it round the back with one hand and before the fox knew what was happenin the deed had be done. Bled like frick though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedwards1966 Posted May 8, 2012 Report Share Posted May 8, 2012 The next night i sat out, and when Mr Fox returned, i cornered him in the coop, grabbed him by the scruff on the neck and slit his throat. He died instantly and did not suffer. The next few nights nothing, and then another in the now converted chicken coop/fox trap. This time i spied a neighbour watching me so i let it go. Blimey, I don't hear of many people doing that! With your open certificate you can shoot it in your garden, provided the usual rules are complied with - the bullet must not leave your boundary (which is obvious from a safety point of view anyway) and the firearm used must be conditioned for fox. Depending on your location you need to be very careful though. I'd suggest a moderated .22lr if it's an option, as anything larger will make noise and could be a problem - it really is down to where you are. Discharging a .243 in a garden could cause a bit of panic in some places, so be careful what you use! Also be careful about being seen, some people might be frightened if they see someone shooting in a garden/from a window, or an anti might have a go. Either way could cause huge problems, so whatever you do be careful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shotgun sam Posted May 8, 2012 Report Share Posted May 8, 2012 What are kings? not a name I have come across. Sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PigeonEater Posted May 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2012 King Pigeons, big birds, size of a chicken. Stand very proud. They were my favs, lost 4 of them. Google them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pest Expert Posted May 8, 2012 Report Share Posted May 8, 2012 I've been thinking about this for a while Im still living with the parents and I only have a SGC but would a moderated .410 be quiet enough from a blank point range they've taken 4 or 5 chickens 2 of our ducks and a turkey on all different situations I no theres a few around my area as there is in most but I see at least 2 or 3 every week with out fail either in the garden or just walking down the road late at night any advice on this? With out turning into Rambo like PigeonEater Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hornet 6 Posted May 8, 2012 Report Share Posted May 8, 2012 Does the .22lr have to be conditioned for fox if all you doing is killing a fox in a trap ? Neil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drut Posted May 8, 2012 Report Share Posted May 8, 2012 "I've been thinking about this for a while Im still living with the parents and I only have a SGC but would a moderated .410 be quiet enough from a blank point range" I've used mine in our garden on occasion(40yds to nearest neighbour) without problem but choice of cartridge is everything noise wise..410 is effective for humane despatch with only light load if you are talking point blank range shooting of a trapped fox,if it isn't trapped forget the .410.Personally I would use a cage trap & dispose elsewhere. This was my last garden visitor(sadly deceased). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artschool Posted May 8, 2012 Report Share Posted May 8, 2012 The first one was personal!! The Kings especially were like pets, when i went out in the garden they would fly down etc. Proper miss em haha comedy. pigeon eater: the revenge. was the fox wearing a gps collar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docholiday Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 comedy. pigeon eater: the revenge. was the fox wearing a gps collar? you see it all on PW :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisheruk Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 Does the .22lr have to be conditioned for fox if all you doing is killing a fox in a trap ? Neil. Yep or humane dispatch of animals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter.123 Posted May 18, 2012 Report Share Posted May 18, 2012 Hold it!!!!! I have got humane dispatch and for the protection of animals and humans does that mean I can pop them off??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeon20g Posted May 24, 2012 Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 I've been thinking about this for a while Im still living with the parents and I only have a SGC but would a moderated .410 be quiet enough from a blank point range they've taken 4 or 5 chickens 2 of our ducks and a turkey on all different situations I no theres a few around my area as there is in most but I see at least 2 or 3 every week with out fail either in the garden or just walking down the road late at night any advice on this? With out turning into Rambo like PigeonEater more than enough honestly you would be suprised, my dog once grabbed a muntjac and had wounded it a fair bit, I was out with the .410 at the time and decided to finish it with it, It blew a hole through its head and muntjac are sturdy animals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demonwolf444 Posted May 24, 2012 Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 every time i go to my uncle's he tells me how he shot a roe with a .410 at close range, dont know what load, but if its true, food for thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PigeonEater Posted May 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 more than enough honestly you would be suprised, my dog once grabbed a muntjac and had wounded it a fair bit, I was out with the .410 at the time and decided to finish it with it, It blew a hole through its head and muntjac are sturdy animals were you hunting this muntjack?!? I hope you were otherwise your as bad as the irresponsible dog owners who villify us for humanely dispatching injured deer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeon20g Posted May 29, 2012 Report Share Posted May 29, 2012 No, dont worry, It was at a friends house and we were just in the garden for coctails and suddenly it sprinted across right infront of us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PigeonEater Posted May 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 so you are indeed, just another idiot with a gun.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stalker2 Posted May 30, 2012 Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 so you are indeed, just another idiot with a gun.... interesting statement from someone who has just put into print what you have on a public forum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mr Pieman Posted May 30, 2012 Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 Poor Mr & Mrs Fox - they were just trying to make an honest living and feed the kids!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeon20g Posted May 31, 2012 Report Share Posted May 31, 2012 so you are indeed, just another idiot with a gun.... Not an idiot with a gun, I responsibly but the dying animal out of its misery. If anything I am an idiot with a dog but I had just got that dog from a rescue home and so did not know the dog had hyper killing instinct! I hope you enjoyed ripping into people you think you are superior too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PigeonEater Posted June 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2012 I dont think im superior to anyone, but when some irresponsible dog owner callously talks about how his dog grabbed and injured a deer so seriously he had to shoot it, and then instead of answering the question (albeit a frustration fueled one) with a proper response comes out with some drivel about sipping his cocktails, then yes you deserve both barrels. And then you say you "responsibly put the dying animal out of it misery". If you were being responsible you wouldnt have been in that position in the first place. I take no joy in "ripping into people" and cannot belive that no one else see's this the way i do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlosdesilva Posted June 1, 2012 Report Share Posted June 1, 2012 Out with the .410/or sipping cocktails? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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