Modified LED lamping torches.

[colliwobbles]

Barrel mounting. Have a look on evil bay for cheap barrel clamps, I got a couple of these , http://bit.ly/RJtQXf not bad quality depends on how much you want to pay

[Rosebank22]

dave,

where did you get all the bits for your nv? The screen looks much more robust than the sat nav screen i was using until it broke

[Dave-G]

dave,

where did you get all the bits for your nv? The screen looks much more robust than the sat nav screen i was using until it broke

 

Here's the screen: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/4-3-inch-TFT-LCD-Monitor-Car-Back-up-Camera-Rear-View-System-2CH-Video-Input-/110950887733?pt=US_Car_Monitors_w_o_Player&hash=item19d5303135

 

Battery pack: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/12V-6800mAh-Li-ion-Rechargeable-Battery-Pack-AC-Charger-for-Bike-Lamp-etc-/330746244514?pt=UK_ConsumerElectronics_Batteries_SM&hash=item4d02032da2

 

very low light B/W camera: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Watec-WAT-902H-1-2-CCD-Monochrome-CCTV-IR-B-W-Camera-Free-Bracket-/380459782472?pt=US_Security_Cameras&hash=item58952b9148

 

25mm lens If you have a fixed/up to 6 mag scope: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/25mm-f-1-2-F1-2-CCTV-Lens-C-Mount-for-Micro-4-3-M4-3-NEX-5-NEX5-EP1-EP2-EPL1-G2-/120841164306?pt=UK_Lenses_Filters_Lenses&hash=item1c22b1d612

 

12mm lens if you have a variable higher mag scope: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-2-CCTV-12mm-C-Mount-Lens-for-Security-Box-Camera-/260917548321?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cbfe5d521

 

c to cs adaptor: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CCTV-CAMERA-LENS-ADAPTOR-FROM-C-TYPE-TO-CS-TYPE-UNIVERSAL-FITTING-NEW-/190685850868?pt=UK_Gadgets&hash=item2c65c32cf4

Edited September 13, 2012 by Dave-G

[paul041075]

Barrel mounting. Have a look on evil bay for cheap barrel clamps, I got a couple of these , http://bit.ly/RJtQXf not bad quality depends on how much you want to pay

 

Cheers but why barrel mount when the extortionate kits sold in shops that I have seen are on the scope?

[colliwobbles]

 

 

The barrel mount too is a contributor to it's success. How many times have we seen comments about scope mouted light reflecting off sound mods and all the fixes that improve things but don't solve the issue totally? The torch head can be located alongside the rear of the sound mod, and it's silly small and light to have no weight or maneuverability issues.

 

Daves earlier post sums up one of the main reasons for barrel mounting, it is personal preference, however the torch is so small and light that it doesn't affect the balance of the rifle, there is no light spill on mods and personally that's where I prefer my torch to be.

[paul041075]

All parts arrived and made up as per the vid in earlier post - all straight forward and easy. Used the lenses of Chubbus, great service got them next day. I got the DX lenses as well so may sell these on or put them in another set of torches I have just ordered. Or will possibly just keep the standards for spotting. Just need to get out in the field and give them a go.

[Dave-G]

Yup - I use the Dx lens equipped hand held torch for scanning too. It's not quite as powerfull as the ahorton one and is less likely to alert bunny till you are ready to line up the shot.

[Muddy Funker]

Right,

 

After next pay day I will be having a crack at a home brew NV set up, I make home brew beer so why not try NV?

 

I've been doing a hell of a lot of reading on this thread and a couple at the airgun uk forum in the NV section.

 

I'm not going to go down the Watec route down to cost.

 

This might be tricky to answer but if I go for the Torch in post one with the single IR LED 1w drop in plus one of the upgraded lenses will this see me with a fairly decent IR emitter?

 

I know range will be down to camera sensitivity but will one of the cheaper cameras give decent results?

 

Thanks for this great thread!!!

[Dave-G]

Right,

 

After next pay day I will be having a crack at a home brew NV set up, I make home brew beer so why not try NV?

 

I've been doing a hell of a lot of reading on this thread and a couple at the airgun uk forum in the NV section.

 

I'm not going to go down the Watec route down to cost.

 

This might be tricky to answer but if I go for the Torch in post one with the single IR LED 1w drop in plus one of the upgraded lenses will this see me with a fairly decent IR emitter?

 

I know range will be down to camera sensitivity but will one of the cheaper cameras give decent results?

 

Thanks for this great thread!!!

 

Find the money for as decent a camera as you can afford - or you will do what so many others have done: Bought a better camera after buying a lesser one so the cost of the lesser one is now wasted in a drawer somewhere.

 

This is using a 1 watt IR drop-in LED with a DX aspheric lens as seen through a watec set at low gain, but it's not on the back of a dayscope with lens coatings that would restrict the passage of IR. For what they cost I'd say its worth a punt. The Watec set at low gain might be comparable to a cheaper cameras standard result if that makes any sense. The camera lens you choose also ought to be an IR one for best night viewing results. It's fairly safe to assume that the ahorton lens system would produce better results but I have not tried that with it.

 

Be sure to use that torch/ahorton lens set up with the remote pressure switch only for a few seconds at a time IMO if you are using the small spacer that is part of the ahorton system. A thermal cooling path for the LED will be better if the the small spacer is ommited - which I referred to a few posts back.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66Ltb2LHnAw&feature=plcp

 

Also:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JW10f_4BhpI&feature=plcp

Edited September 19, 2012 by Dave-G

[Muddy Funker]

Thanks for the reply Dave,

 

Looks like you're getting some good results there.

 

I'm aware that the watec seems to be the camera of choice at the moment, I was hoping to build a useable set up close to £100, obviously that is what the watec costs alone.

 

Maybe I'm expecting too much for the budget I have, do you think with one of the lesser cameras 50 - 60 yards is achievable? Assuming a DX or Ahorton upgrade?

 

I was thinking along the lines of this http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200788570395?ssPageName=STRK:MESINDXX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1436.l2649

 

Choosing the camera seems to be a real mine field as there are so many, I'm trying to get a set up in as close to £100 as possible.

 

Thanks again.

[Dave-G]

I don't know is the true answer.

 

Cheaper cameras will require more IR light - which defeats the covert intention of NV and will cost more money too. I tried a super had BW/colour bullet camera and it was pants for what we want, even with IR floodlights on the roff of my 4WD. Perhaps I want too much but the point to bear in mind is that you are going to add the camera to the rear of a scope that has several lenses coated to suit daytime wavelengths. Read my thread on another forum which has information to explain that last bit from a specialist supplier of the optics goods we need, this aspect is all new to me too:

http://www.nightvisi....php?f=3&t=1038

 

All I can say is that saving a few pounds on the camera portion of your rig may not be in your better long term cost or performance interests.

Edited September 19, 2012 by Dave-G

[Muddy Funker]

Thanks for the link, I've joined the forum just waiting for the account to be activated.

 

This is the dilemma I'm in along with others probably, do I try and build my own out of quality higher end components or just pay a little extra and get something commercial with guarantees ect?

 

I might just have a try on a budget first as i can afford to lose £20 or £30 if the camera is pants.

 

Cheers.

[Muddy Funker]

How about this as a starting point for an IR emitter?

 

http://www.ebay.co.u...=item4cfb27e671

 

Fitted with this

 

http://www.ebay.com/...=item41636f0d59

 

And one or the lens upgrades?

 

Would I have to black out the reflective on the IR drop in?

Edited September 19, 2012 by Muddy Funker

[Dave-G]

How about this as a starting point for an IR emitter?

 

http://www.ebay.co.u...=item4cfb27e671

 

Fitted with this

 

http://www.ebay.com/...=item41636f0d59

 

And one or the lens upgrades?

 

Would I have to black out the reflective on the IR drop in?

 

Yes, yes, yes and yes.

Edited September 20, 2012 by Dave-G

[Muddy Funker]

Haha, you're a star Dave thanks!!

 

Looks like I've got another project ready to start :-)

 

I'll keep the thread updated with results!

[Dave-G]

Haha, you're a star Dave thanks!!

 

Looks like I've got another project ready to start :-)

 

I'll keep the thread updated with results!

 

Before you rush off...

 

There is a better single die IR LED on the market:

http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?335343-P60-modules-warm-neutral-cool-white-XRE-XPE-XPG-S2-XML-U2-NICHIA-92CRI-(part-10)&p=4017084#post4017084

 

I think that link takes you to my (some bloke) post in regard to it.

[killer rabbit (r1000)]

:yp: i've been using the higher power ultrafire, surefire & spiderfire torches for quite some time now & i very highly rate them. they're ideal in size & power, batteries are easy to obtain & most of them fit straight into a scope mount (i have a few mounted into quick-release picatinny mounts). i've even sold several to some very impressed friends. as for buying these kits, sorry but i don't need them as i have some of these torches with variable focus, fantastic idea for other people though & i might still try blacking out the reflector on some as they still spill a little light.

[Muddy Funker]

Before you rush off...

 

There is a better single die IR LED on the market:

http://www.candlepow...084#post4017084

 

I think that link takes you to my (some bloke) post in regard to it.

 

Haven't bought anything yet (awaiting pay day!!)

 

The link takes me to one of your posts but the only thing I can pick out is mention of a 940nm emitter, no part number or anything?

 

Not sure if I'm reading the post correctly?

 

Thanks.

[Dave-G]

Haven't bought anything yet (awaiting pay day!!)

 

The link takes me to one of your posts but the only thing I can pick out is mention of a 940nm emitter, no part number or anything?

 

Not sure if I'm reading the post correctly?

 

Thanks.

 

He custom builds upgrade drop in LED modules. If you read a bit more of the thread Including the first page you will probably get the hang of what is happening there. 850nm is better for most of us.

 

The difference between the 1 watt cheapo ebay one and the nailbender ones can be seen here - as viewed through a Watec 902H spotter camera rig, set at high gain, filmed in full moonlight and clear sky.

 

Cheapo/budget ebay 1 watt IR drop-in with DX aspheric lens, blacked reflector:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfUyjWxMvI4&feature=relmfu

 

 

 

Nailbenders IR drop-in with DX aspheric lens, not blacked reflector (it wasn't mine to black):

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcRv9EHKtGM&feature=relmfu

[Muddy Funker]

Christ what have I got myself into!!!!!

 

Okay thanks, I'll get reading. These threads are amazing though to be fair, so much knowledge being shared it's great!!

 

Cheers.

[pegasus bridge]

i brought a couple of very cheap torches (sub £5 each delivered) they are described as 'cree p5 7w' and are badged 'ultrafire', they have the aspheric lens fitted, the beam is also adjustable. it throws a very tight beam out to upwards of 150 yards, only problem is it is a white beam! any idea if i can get a red led to drop into this?

 

item number on the large internet auction site is ;120922625154

runs on either the 18650 or 3x aaa in a cradle .

[Dave-G]

Someone has done a similar ting with an IR led on the BBS NV section

[weebster]

How much are nailbenders ir drop ins,and what torch can they be used in?......I have the ultrafire 502b with 5w ir/dx aspherical lens at the moment.

I am going to try a zoomable torch and 1 w ir drop in,just wondering if nailbenders would give better results?

[Bryn]

Hi all just got my torch,battery & mounting, silly question but how should the pressure switch work?

Mine has three buttons it does not matter which is pressed the torch lights up but goes off when released is this correct operation?

Just want to make sure all is ok, may be me having a blonde moment?

[roughcoat]

Hi all just got my torch,battery & mounting, silly question but how should the pressure switch work?

Mine has three buttons it does not matter which is pressed the torch lights up but goes off when released is this correct operation?

Just want to make sure all is ok, may be me having a blonde moment?

 

Mine's the same mate I think the remote switch cancels the mode option.