Granty84 Posted August 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2012 Dear all, Thanks for your really helpful comments. I'm gonna head to the shop first thing and demand a full refund. I've got my eye on a brand new 3" Escort on sale at the countryman up in Derby so will be heading up that way later in the week. I'll let you know how it fairs in the future. Cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malantone Posted August 13, 2012 Report Share Posted August 13, 2012 Don`t take any **** mate you are in the right. quote the "Sale of goods act" you were told the gun would do what the manufacturer said it wouldn`t,, there is always the small caims court. GIVE THEM HELL GOOD LUCK Tony A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retromlc Posted August 13, 2012 Report Share Posted August 13, 2012 just take it back and ask them to swap it for a 3",as your new to shooting you wouldn't have known this and as you want to shoot clays and it won't cycle maximun permitted clay loads it's not really the right gun for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2sledge Posted August 13, 2012 Report Share Posted August 13, 2012 i have a 3 1/2 which i use for clays geese pigeon etc just keep it well oiled and make sure you keep the two small holes in the barrel clean as the right hand one seems the clog up more than the left for some reason mine cycles 28 g no problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrapFiller Posted August 13, 2012 Report Share Posted August 13, 2012 Countryman have got the new xtrememax autos in and they are suppose to shoot everything down to 24 gram and it think they look quite good as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krugerandsmith Posted August 14, 2012 Report Share Posted August 14, 2012 Dear all, Thanks for your really helpful comments. I'm gonna head to the shop first thing and demand a full refund. I've got my eye on a brand new 3" Escort on sale at the countryman up in Derby so will be heading up that way later in the week. I'll let you know how it fairs in the future. Cheers! Traded my older Hatson semi auto ( Brilliant Gun ) for the new fast loadind Escort at ....Countryman of Derby ...They gave me a very...very good deal ...Had to travel from Merseyside but ....Well worth the journey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted August 14, 2012 Report Share Posted August 14, 2012 it seems to like supergem 28g 70mm fine, but not eley superb. Did we once theorise that might be because the Superbs appeared to have a prouder brass lip? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granty84 Posted August 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2012 Thanks for all your comments and advice. I went back to the shop expecting a bit of a barney, only to get really good, no questions asked service. I got my refund and bought a brand new '12 edition 3" Magnum for £40 quid more than I paid for the second hand Mk1. I'll run it in on Thursday with those Eley VIPs and let you know how it works out. I get the feeling that at Shooting Supplies Bromsgrove it all depends on who serves you as to whether or not you get the best advice. I can't fault them as a shop for all their help, even if they did generate the problems to start with!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted August 14, 2012 Report Share Posted August 14, 2012 Glad you got it sorted sounds like they wanted to shift some old sh stock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brown Sauce Posted August 14, 2012 Report Share Posted August 14, 2012 Did we once theorise that might be because the Superbs appeared to have a prouder brass lip? Aye could've been that and coupled with the larger chamber caused the odd jam. Anybody else find eley a little jammy?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted August 14, 2012 Report Share Posted August 14, 2012 (edited) Work fine in my OU and SxS never had a jam..... Olympics cycle well in semi's 70mm case and decent punch! Edit: to the OP the £40 is worth it for the warranty.... Worth getting competent at stripping it and making sure it isn't full of oil from the factory! Edited August 14, 2012 by HDAV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malantone Posted August 14, 2012 Report Share Posted August 14, 2012 (edited) well done mate maybe someone at the shop is on PW they might have known you were coming :lol: well done pal time for a beer now and then Edited August 14, 2012 by malantone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan-250 Posted August 14, 2012 Report Share Posted August 14, 2012 Countryman have got the new xtrememax autos in and they are suppose to shoot everything down to 24 gram and it think they look quite good as well. The mk3( I think) 3" escort with the fast loading system and cone end cap goes down to 24 gram in the manual. I tried mine with 67mm 21 grams and dint have a single problem the other day claying as this is what my sister used. I can't fault my hatsan at all, I've not had a single jam yet, only got it in feb but put around 1500 through it now. The newest edition escort is the same internals as the extremax. Glad you got it sorted. And to be honest I don't think I'd like to put a 3 1/2 through, she'd kick like a mule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter.123 Posted August 14, 2012 Report Share Posted August 14, 2012 Having a big cartridge in a semi just feels like a sxs with 30-32 gram loads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan-250 Posted August 14, 2012 Report Share Posted August 14, 2012 Having a big cartridge in a semi just feels like a sxs with 30-32 gram loads My sxs gives me bruises every time I use it, but can't sell it as the mrs bought me it. She's adament I use it on the pigeons with 32's in, gives me a right kick in the face. "why don't you take my gun out no more, you don't use or appreciate it " is all I get, aswell as an aching shoulder and sore chops, more often a bleeding finger from the double trigger. Back to subject gave mine a clean tonite and it's good as new, just a quick wipe and re oil that was it done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted August 15, 2012 Report Share Posted August 15, 2012 when i had one it would throw out 28 gram ,and it never jammed as said put heavey carts in it first, and break it in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subsonicnat Posted August 15, 2012 Report Share Posted August 15, 2012 Dan-250, With all the problems you are having young man, the gun does not fit you, simple as that: Get someone else<<< who shoots to put it to their shoulder, see if they get any problems mounting it, ALL the symtoms you are describing ,are coming from a TOO SHORT a Stock, Stick some rubber on the BUTT with TAPE till it all feels better, then,,, either put a spacer in the buttt or take it to someone who can, No Big Deal... Colin: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subsonicnat Posted August 15, 2012 Report Share Posted August 15, 2012 Hi Guys, Here we go again:::::: I have the 3.5" Hatsan, I have posted on here what the problem was, never mind breaking in, load of Codswallop.. The may be tight, but every gun should be anyway, ask a gunsmith::: I ONLY came across problems with My 3.5" when the cartridges were very Dirty, my mate next door to me had a BERRETA AUTO, his gun Jammed more than mine:: Cleaned and changed cartridges, never had another problem... What you feed it is the answer, there is no such thing as a Rogue gun made on Monday or Friday like a car, AND 28 Grm will go through it ALL DAY without a Hiccup, if having this problem, change cartridges, it will work... Clean it well, before changeing catridges, you will not be disappionted... Colin: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granty84 Posted August 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 I tried out my new Hatsan 3" this evening- worked like a flaming charm!! As a test, a friend lent me some really pathetic 21gm carts and it cycled them without even blinking! I can't get over the lack of recoil with the VIPs, which hammered me when I used someones OU the other week, unbelievable. Subsonicat- I saw your comment about lengthening a gun's stock and this made my life a lot easier tonight. Cheers for all your advice and help people! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerettaSV10 Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 Tried my new escort out the other night with comp x's and jammed every time, tried other cartridges and worked every time. Stripped it down today cleaned it and removed the packing / transit grease and oiled it. Teach me to take a new gun streight off the rack, without cleaning it and removing the grease of first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 CompX are the least likely to work, soft & short Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 I for one utterly fail to see the point of even trying a Comp X in any semi-auto unless someone has a very very good reason. And by good reason I mean being a child, little woman or some sort of medical condition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 I for one utterly fail to see the point of even trying a Comp X in any semi-auto unless someone has a very very good reason. And by good reason I mean being a child, little woman or some sort of medical condition. I dont class that as a good reason.... only good reason would be that is the only gun and cartridge available for 100 miles and a zombie hoard is chasing you.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter.123 Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 But then it fails to cycle and you get eaten anyway?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerettaSV10 Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 The comp x just happen to be what I normally use in my Benelli s/a (cycles them every time 28G & 99.9 % the 21G) and was all I had on me at the time to test the escort, was planning to get different gun but got the escort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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