adam f Posted August 31, 2012 Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 Ive had an invite to a days driven duck next week. Whilst its not really my bag, I'm a guest of a good friend. Whilst I've shot duck wild fowling etc driven is new to me, and what's more, they are renown for being high birds (40-50 yards up) In the past I've used steel shot, but at these ranges I'm not sure what to use? What do you lot suggest and what load and shot size? I expect I'll be leaving my usual 20 bore at home and using my 12 bore o/u. Adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted August 31, 2012 Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 TMX or bismuth are an option but not cheap, larger steel? 3" no 2? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakin stevens Posted August 31, 2012 Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 depends on how much you want to pay, is your gun proofed for steel and what chamber size is it? failing that plenty of tungsten impact in 5 shot will do the job or bismuth will do, plenty in the Eley range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver pigeon 3 Posted August 31, 2012 Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 Should be non toxic, on the foreshore i would be using 3 1/2" steel 3's but would keep the range to below 40yards. Don't think you would be to welcome turning up with a semi and boxes of 3 1/2" carts! If the pockets are deep enough i have used Gamebore tungsten 3's in 36g (70mm case) and i rate them for very high birds, if you do go down the Tungsten route i have found that they dont like to much choke, my best results have been with 1/4. Best of luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aga man Posted August 31, 2012 Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 in the june issue of sporting gun there was an article on driven duck on a shoot that was lead shot permissable due to the fact that the shooting took place over pasture/arable ground and well away from ponds/wetlands. might be worth checking with the shoot captain/keeper to see whats what. if it's no lead bismuth would be my choice but it's quite hard on the pocket :o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted August 31, 2012 Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 if its a freebie just pick your shots and use some no.3 steel- not my thing shooting duck in such a way though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted August 31, 2012 Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 http://www.justcartridges.com/pdf/nontoxic.pdf Hevi shot over £2 a bang.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kes Posted August 31, 2012 Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 I would go for Tungsten Matrix in 5's, at least 3/4 choke - and plenty of lead (well in front that is). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobt Posted August 31, 2012 Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 in the june issue of sporting gun there was an article on driven duck on a shoot that was lead shot permissable due to the fact that the shooting took place over pasture/arable ground and well away from ponds/wetlands. might be worth checking with the shoot captain/keeper to see whats what. if it's no lead bismuth would be my choice but it's quite hard on the pocket :o probably in Scotland, they have more sensible lead shot rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aga man Posted August 31, 2012 Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 probably in Scotland, they have more sensible lead shot rules. just checked it bob. it's actually northern ireland. i agree about the scottish lead shot rules Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oxfordfowler Posted September 1, 2012 Report Share Posted September 1, 2012 Went to a Driven Duck day once - we did two duck "drives" at the end of a walked up day. I will never do it again - that is not the way to shoot ducks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam f Posted September 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2012 My gun is proofed for steel but I'm worried it won't do the job at range. Will probably go tungsten matrix or similar. How does this behave compared to lead? Do I need to shoot any different? Ie it slower or faster requiring more or less lead? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted September 1, 2012 Report Share Posted September 1, 2012 Don`t worry about it, I can`t tell the difference against lead, but I can with steel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodeer Posted September 1, 2012 Report Share Posted September 1, 2012 Tungsten Matrix 36g 3 or 5's. Where are you shooting in Dorset? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam f Posted September 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2012 It's in Devon, Axminster way I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pykie Posted September 1, 2012 Report Share Posted September 1, 2012 Pm sent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodeer Posted September 1, 2012 Report Share Posted September 1, 2012 It's in Devon, Axminster way I think. Thats a good place. I'd use a 34g / 36g 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted September 2, 2012 Report Share Posted September 2, 2012 Have done this a few times in the past and used Gamebore Super Steel 4's.Was impressed with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kobidog Posted September 2, 2012 Report Share Posted September 2, 2012 Went to a Driven Duck day once - we did two duck "drives" at the end of a walked up day. I will never do it again - that is not the way to shoot ducks. Why what is so wrong with driven duck shooting? I have never done it before so wouldn't know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam f Posted September 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2012 I guess it's not the purists way of shooting duck. Ie no field craft no waiting for them to flight in, and they aren't wild they are reared. But I guess it's like shooting wild walked up pheasants vs shooting driven reared birds. Each to their own. I've never tried it so very much looking forward to it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 Why what is so wrong with driven duck shooting? I have never done it before so wouldn't know Driven pheasant,driven duck and I suppose to an extent driven Grouse could all be classed as 'canned' hunting/shooting.They're all reared to one extent or another,and it can't really be regarded as hunting in the true meaning of the sense,and is regarded by some as unsporting dependant on how the ducks fly. We have a flight pond on which none of the ducks are reared;admittedly we feed it but the ducks all come from the wild(unless they've been reared elsewhere!)and sometimes they show up,other times they don't. On a big commercial shoot where I beat the ducks are all bought in,in their 1000's,and sometimes they get up when disturbed,and fly round and round in circles at great height,sometimes they get up and ****** off(which is hilarious!)and sometimes you would struggle to get them in the air without launching them from a trap! It's not everyones cup of tea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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