-Mongrel- Posted September 7, 2012 Report Share Posted September 7, 2012 (edited) well said and very true So that's twice you've posted now on a thread about someone you don't care about or have any time for. As said, very odd behaviour! Personally I feel it will be a great moral boost for the lads out there, and I'm sure that while kept away from the really hairy stuff, he'll not want to be sat on his **** polishing apaches! I do think it foolish to broadcast his presence until he gets back though! Edited September 7, 2012 by -Mongrel- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckaroo23 Posted September 7, 2012 Report Share Posted September 7, 2012 He wanted it, trained to fly why not proves he's got balls, unlike most of them fair play and good luck that's all il say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Mike Posted September 7, 2012 Report Share Posted September 7, 2012 By suggesting he'll be wrapped in cotton wool you are knocking him. I think you underestimate his determination to do his job. No I dont hes young , full of Joi de vivre, life is a big adventure still and hes very immature for his age...he might not be so determined when hes sees a few severed limbs and the odd coil of intestines... His presence in Afghanistan, his location, his movements and involvement will be planned like a swiss watch and he will be protected from all of it. Like I said leave it to the hardened Proffessionals...if he wants to fly helicopters go and join Falmouth coast guards they could do with him.. In my opinion its all just an elaborate propaganda display. "Now look here old son you cant be going round all these pool parties, smoking joints and showing your todger to the papers... you have to do something to put you back in the publics adoration. Ive had a word with those nice chaps at Whitehall and your off for a stint abroad...That should do the trick " Call me cynical but what would anyone wager me.... within the next week or two a headline in the dailys something akin to ... " Harry caught in enemy fire" or " Harry's Chopper under attack again" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted September 7, 2012 Report Share Posted September 7, 2012 No I dont hes young , full of Joi de vivre, life is a big adventure still and hes very immature for his age...he might not be so determined when hes sees a few severed limbs and the odd coil of intestines... His presence in Afghanistan, his location, his movements and involvement will be planned like a swiss watch and he will be protected from all of it. Like I said leave it to the hardened Proffessionals...if he wants to fly helicopters go and join Falmouth coast guards they could do with him.. In my opinion its all just an elaborate propaganda display. What a load of old tosh. Nobody goes on their first major operation to a war zone as a hardened professional. His tour has been planned for ages, long before he got his todger out in Vegas, so hardly a way of gaining public support for him is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg Posted September 7, 2012 Report Share Posted September 7, 2012 Cynic is what i would say, remember he has already been out there once, but that did not come out until after he was back. We let our press know too much sometimes. His behaviour was not what one woudl expect of an officer and a member of the Royal Family but give him his due. I would say he is a hardened professional and again, how do you know he has not seen limbs and intestines, sorry Mike but your cynical comments seem almost troll like. Were you/are you a hardened professional? been there, seen it , done it? If so then you have my respect and admiration, if not than it proves the troll theory Bang on Poontang. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Mike Posted September 7, 2012 Report Share Posted September 7, 2012 What a load of old tosh. Nobody goes on their first major operation to a war zone as a hardened professional. His tour has been planned for ages, long before he got his todger out in Vegas, so hardly a way of gaining public support for him is it? Doesnt that make it rather stupid to send him out there then...? We shall see..question is do the other soldiers want him out there....My Nephew and my neighbours son for two certainly dont! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digger Posted September 7, 2012 Report Share Posted September 7, 2012 You are cynical.Did your experience of severed limbs and coils of intestines alter your outlook and provide you with your knowledge of how it may change him? No doubt the pilot whose place he has taken ( in order to cover up the non news story from the states ) will come forward... oh hang on, his deployment was planned prior to him being "immature". That comment alone indicates a judgemental and condescending tone. Or one of someone who frowns on fun past the age of 23 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg Posted September 7, 2012 Report Share Posted September 7, 2012 On the basis of your argument Mike, is it stupid to send first timers in a war zone?. How then do they get experience?. So which are you?, you haven't answered yet. Is there a bit of the old class war coming out?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Mike Posted September 7, 2012 Report Share Posted September 7, 2012 Cynic is what i would say, remember he has already been out there once, but that did not come out until after he was back. We let our press know too much sometimes. His behaviour was not what one woudl expect of an officer and a member of the Royal Family but give him his due. I would say he is a hardened professional and again, how do you know he has not seen limbs and intestines, sorry Mike but your cynical comments seem almost troll like. Were you/are you a hardened professional? been there, seen it , done it? If so then you have my respect and admiration, if not than it proves the troll theory Bang on Poontang. calm down calm down... lets have a proper democratic interaction with out any mud slinging..when you resort to insults its just an illustration that your argument is slipping and you have to seek reassurance from the posts of another member. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Mike Posted September 7, 2012 Report Share Posted September 7, 2012 On the basis of your argument Mike, is it stupid to send first timers in a war zone?. How then do they get experience?. So which are you?, you haven't answered yet. Is there a bit of the old class war coming out?. Dont be ridiculous I admire the working classes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian28 Posted September 7, 2012 Report Share Posted September 7, 2012 Im afraid fisherman mike is so right with his smoke and mirrors comment he was suposed to be in afghanistan before pictured behind a machine gun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg Posted September 7, 2012 Report Share Posted September 7, 2012 I'm calm as a cucumber and meant no insult Mike, no mud slung.. i certainly do not need any reasurance, just agreed with Poontang. It does seem that your comments are posted to elicit a reaction rather than reasoned discussion. Are you ex millitary?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digger Posted September 7, 2012 Report Share Posted September 7, 2012 at least calling someone ridiculous isnt born from a slipping argument Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happypig Posted September 7, 2012 Report Share Posted September 7, 2012 This is all slightly unfair.... I think you will be surprised that he is a squadron pilot doing a normal tour, no exceptions. We do not have enough apaches in theatre for joyriders. He will be on call the same as the next pilot responding to calls for support from troops in contact. It's also unfair to suggesTt the ukSAR pilots are not in danger..... William is engaged in operational flying at the very edge of the envelope putting his life on the line to rescue others... How many on here have done that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildfowler.250 Posted September 7, 2012 Report Share Posted September 7, 2012 Know nothing about apache helicopters, are they ment to be pretty safe I'm guessing? Saw the comment along the lines of 'never lost one in combat". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg Posted September 7, 2012 Report Share Posted September 7, 2012 Hats off to both boys, they could have sheltered behind their titles but have done what a lot of folks have and are out there in their respective roles. Same goes to all our brave chaps and girls wherever they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevorevans Posted September 8, 2012 Report Share Posted September 8, 2012 Got nothing against the boy though I am very anti royal, as far as im concerned they're just parasites sucking off all of us. But given his position I'd be flat out party time all the time, that thing in Vegas would be nothing more than normal, let's face it he's rolling in money (most of it ours) and has little to no chance of ever making the throne so therefore has sweet FA to loose. I do however worry for the guys serving with him as there will no doubt be a price on his head, it just puts whoever is working with him in more danger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted September 8, 2012 Report Share Posted September 8, 2012 Doesnt that make it rather stupid to send him out there then...? We shall see..question is do the other soldiers want him out there....My Nephew and my neighbours son for two certainly dont! Mike, I don't know what your nephew and neighbours son are doing out there, but if they're ground troops and end up in a sticky situation I wouldn't mind betting they'll be glad to see HRH coming over the horizon in his chopper? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sako751sg Posted September 8, 2012 Report Share Posted September 8, 2012 Great stuff,and the same folk speaking pure ***** that he won't be close to any danger would be whinging if he wasn't there claiming he was getting preferential treatment. They can't help who they are when born and although too many of them take the easiest passage in life these two are living a life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sako751sg Posted September 8, 2012 Report Share Posted September 8, 2012 Doesnt that make it rather stupid to send him out there then...? We shall see..question is do the other soldiers want him out there....My Nephew and my neighbours son for two certainly dont! I would get your local water supply checked fella. Seems its tainted with bitterness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kes Posted September 8, 2012 Report Share Posted September 8, 2012 There seem to me to be two perspectives - first Harry was withdrawn from ground combat because of the potential threat - thats fair enough to me and no reflection on Harry. He then complained bitterly that he couldnt do his 'job' and has converted to an apache - no small feat for anyone. I do not doubt that Harry will fly like any other pilot and this job is a measured step to allow him to fight but try to ensure he isnt targetted successfully. If you take him as he is - I quite like the lad and certainly he doesnt lack intestinal fortitude. despite being a bit 'boisterous', he's earned his 'royal' status to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100milesaway Posted September 8, 2012 Report Share Posted September 8, 2012 I do not understand why the British public needs to know that this lad is going out to Afganistan but i sure wish they had waited till he was back before making public statements.from Auntie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
storme37 Posted September 8, 2012 Report Share Posted September 8, 2012 I do not understand why the British public needs to know that this lad is going out to Afganistan. its called propaganda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted September 8, 2012 Report Share Posted September 8, 2012 I'd wonder how many apache pilots worry about being targeted instead of HRH to my mind if you look at the firepower they have it must be a case of being it on. Harry is out there because he didn't want to be trained and take a pilots place if he wasn't deployed. An apache is one of the safer places to be in a war zone and you'll find they are in the thick of it as they aren't much use for anything else. The royals are damned if they do and damned if they don't. By serving he is up there in my estimations and Vegas well that did the same good lad make the most of it, anyone else can do it and it would not be press worthy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linny58 Posted September 8, 2012 Report Share Posted September 8, 2012 I'm calm as a cucumber and meant no insult Mike, no mud slung.. i certainly do not need any reasurance, just agreed with Poontang. It does seem that your comments are posted to elicit a reaction rather than reasoned discussion. Are you ex millitary?. No but he does a real good Dirty Harry impersonation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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