tomaddy525 Posted September 20, 2012 Report Share Posted September 20, 2012 Hi guys just wondering... My dad has just forked out for three boxes of the three inch hevi-shot threes for the solway, and i nearly had a fit! why would you use only 34g of threes for sixty yard pinks! do any of you fine fellows use them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muncher Posted September 20, 2012 Report Share Posted September 20, 2012 Because ther'e the dogs danglies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edenman Posted September 20, 2012 Report Share Posted September 20, 2012 I used them when they were the 40 gram loads and found them great, i was getting them at £12 per 10 at the time, dread to think what they cost now. I now load my own 42gram hevi shot loads. Hevi shot is the best stuff for long range geese. It will kill further than most of us can shoot!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xav Posted September 20, 2012 Report Share Posted September 20, 2012 Too expensive and decent steel shells can be used now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildfowlingmad Posted September 20, 2012 Report Share Posted September 20, 2012 Fantastic, especially at range. I dont use them because i try to restrain myself on high shots and they are so expensive!! If i knew i would have 50+ yard geese coming over i would try and get hold of them, i have seen a few unbelievable kills with hevi shot at range. But steel is not so bad now and you dont get that sinking feeling when you miss a chance and your thinking dam, i just fired £3 up into the air!!! :no: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted September 20, 2012 Report Share Posted September 20, 2012 Steel has come on leaps and bounds. I no longer use hevi shot, but its energy retention at range is excellent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete1dart Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 Why not? Iv tried bismouth, steel, tin and hevi shot. Bismuth 3" hit a Canada at 30 yards 3 times and it went on a long way before I could pick it. Steel 1"s express. Could never shoot consistent enough for a clean kill, always in the wing for some reason?? I was given 2 boxes of tin 4's. Used them on pigeon and corvids, as I didn't trust them on geese and ducks, was proven right! Awful awful cartridges! Hevi shot is all I use know. Ok. I don't do as much wildfowling as I used to but, they are the danglers! Muts nuts, they are the best. 50 yard pinks on the solway? It's not the cartridge that's at fault! Steep in price but as long as you pick your shots and know your cartridge the price is worth it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scolopax Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 Why, because it is the best long range goose load par none! If you drive even a moderate distance to the marsh you will spend far more on fuel then you ever will on hevi shot. Having Hevi shot in the gun gives you the confidence that a 50 yard pink is not marginal, but extremely killable, and having confidence leads to straight shooting. Off to the USA in November so going to buy a few more lbs whilst I am there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windmig Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 Hevi-shots are so good that they are now forbidden in France ! I'm not sure that it's the real reason but it is the only one that appears to me. One could find them a couple of years ago but now it is finished. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoggy Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 They are excellent, but I refuse to buy them simply because of the cost. I agree with Chris, steel has come on leaps and bounds. I now use Remington steel and rate them highly. The Nitro steel has a decent killing range virtually the same as some of the old lead loads. Hevi-shot does have an excellent killing range but this can lead to Fowlers becoming over confident and picking extremely high birds out of range. Hevi-shot does give you a slight edge, but at a price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebridges Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 Hevi-shot is awesome stuff. If you shoot a handful a year what's the problem? I do a bit of inland duck shooting and use Remington steel, they're good but not a patch on hevi-shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 if i had the money, i would use it all the time. better cartridge IMHO. even though its not without its faults, it should give better energy retention over longer distances. ps, your dad has great taste in shells and he knows his beans when it comes to cartridge selection for "solway & pinks" as for the 60 yards bit, mildly subjectively as distance always is. cant fault him at all for his shell selection. steel has come along well, but hevi is in a legue of its own, and 3s seem to be ace ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 I patterned a load of different non toxic through my auto, fitted with 1/2 choke. The hevi shot was one of the worst, at 35 yrds there were big fist size holes, at 50 yrds, there were only a few pellets on the board, a duck could have easily gotten through it. The gamebore mammoth steel held tight patterns right out to 55 yrds. I also tested the shot on some "1 plywood, at 50 yards both hevi and steel shot passed clean through it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaniel Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 well im glad of that as i just picked up 300 3.5" mamouths 42g BB steels for the geese this year, now all i have to do is get them over me within range Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry P Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 well im glad of that as i just picked up 300 3.5" mamouths 42g BB steels for the geese this year, now all i have to do is get them over me within range Planning a busy season . Where did you get them from, their proving rarer than bloody chickens teeth up here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaniel Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 been on order for approx 1.5 months from Braces of bristol who obviously had them in from Gamebore yesterday Just Cartridges had them as SP3 got his from there the other week i think They are for when go up to annoy all those Orkney residents later in the year.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildfowler.250 Posted September 22, 2012 Report Share Posted September 22, 2012 Heavy shot is a horrendous price! If you are shooting a semi-auto, each skien is a small fortune. Going to get into home loading steel soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted September 22, 2012 Report Share Posted September 22, 2012 I patterned a load of different non toxic through my auto, fitted with 1/2 choke. The hevi shot was one of the worst, at 35 yrds there were big fist size holes, at 50 yrds, there were only a few pellets on the board, a duck could have easily gotten through it. The gamebore mammoth steel held tight patterns right out to 55 yrds. I also tested the shot on some "1 plywood, at 50 yards both hevi and steel shot passed clean through it. In my hevi shot reloading manual, it strongly advocates the use of open chokes, as too much choke can force hevi shot pellets towards the patterns perimeter. That could well be what happened with your tests. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted September 22, 2012 Report Share Posted September 22, 2012 (edited) In my hevi shot reloading manual, it strongly advocates the use of open chokes, as too much choke can force hevi shot pellets towards the patterns perimeter. That could well be what happened with your tests. I never knew that. That might well explain the results. However, a friend who had the same gun but used an after market choke ( wad wizard, or a terror) which was equivalent to a full choke I believe, gave nice tight patterns with all the non toxic loads, right out to 55 yrds ..... Edited September 22, 2012 by chrispti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomaddy525 Posted September 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2012 price isnt the problem! i payed £42 for the very last box of remington wingmaster HD because they really are the muts nuts! 1 3/4 oz of bb wingmaster will hold much better patterns at a longer range than hevi-shot! going to use my box of hevi-shot on the high phesants! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edenman Posted September 22, 2012 Report Share Posted September 22, 2012 Cut the shot out and load them into 42gram loads thats what i did, if you want a load pm me, dont waste the shot on pheasents Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 I never knew that. That might well explain the results. However, a friend who had the same gun but used an after market choke ( wad wizard, or a terror) which was equivalent to a full choke I believe, gave nice tight patterns with all the non toxic loads, right out to 55 yrds ..... I have a wad wizard supreme for my 12. It isn't a constriction type choke. I shot my first geese using it on some big canadas, on Saturday. I was using BB and T steel homeloads and i was very impressed with the kills. The first bunch that came, i had a triple and they were all stone dead. I am still to do any pattern testing using this choke, but i'm guessing that it will throw some nice, tight patterns with steel and hevi. I'm now thinking of getting a wad wizard for my 10 bore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hillmouse Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 Hevi-shot is the best shot available. Open choke suits best in my experience. Tin is next to useless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 I have a wad wizard supreme for my 12. It isn't a constriction type choke. I shot my first geese using it on some big canadas, on Saturday. I was using BB and T steel homeloads and i was very impressed with the kills. The first bunch that came, i had a triple and they were all stone dead. I am still to do any pattern testing using this choke, but i'm guessing that it will throw some nice, tight patterns with steel and hevi. I'm now thinking of getting a wad wizard for my 10 bore. I think I might take a look at home loading, at least then you can tailor your cartridges to suit....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesneale89 Posted September 26, 2012 Report Share Posted September 26, 2012 I use 2oz loads in 3 1/2 of tungsten matrix through my 12g like, ad hevishot shot I would proba choose the tungsten as its gone more pellets in the load Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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