ST3V3 Posted September 27, 2012 Report Share Posted September 27, 2012 can any one help me to find out if I have a constructive dissmissle case yes mungler the thought of just laying them all out has come to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
storme37 Posted September 27, 2012 Report Share Posted September 27, 2012 go for a claim anyway mess em up abit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marktattoo Posted September 27, 2012 Report Share Posted September 27, 2012 Have a look at acas website and talk to them, from all accounts they are very good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted September 27, 2012 Report Share Posted September 27, 2012 go for a claim anyway mess em up abit Of all the claims this is the hard one to prove. A mate of mine sits on ETs and Constructive Dismissal claims rarely in his experience succeed. PM me the details if you like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted September 27, 2012 Report Share Posted September 27, 2012 From what you've told us I reckon you've got a great case. Go for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jocko25 Posted September 27, 2012 Report Share Posted September 27, 2012 have a look in here http://www.acas.org.uk/index.aspx?articleid=1365 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted September 27, 2012 Report Share Posted September 27, 2012 have a look in here http://www.acas.org....?articleid=1365 No, don't, that link is useless. Instead look here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ST3V3 Posted September 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2012 Im an operations manager in a factory which has roughly 150 employees of which 120 work on the factory floor and 5 or so in the office who answer to me. some of my responsibilities are ensuring deadlines are met, employing staff, holidays etc. today I have been told that as of monday the factory is no longer my responsibility as there is a new guy starting and thats his job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northamptonclay Posted September 27, 2012 Report Share Posted September 27, 2012 some of my responsibilities are employing staff, today I have been told that as of monday the factory is no longer my responsibility as there is a new guy starting and thats his job Looks like you employed the wrong bloke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted September 27, 2012 Report Share Posted September 27, 2012 (edited) * Edited September 27, 2012 by sitsinhedges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikky Posted September 27, 2012 Report Share Posted September 27, 2012 (edited) have you got a contract mikky Edited September 27, 2012 by mikky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted September 27, 2012 Report Share Posted September 27, 2012 (edited) Do you have a job description, defining what your roles and responsibilities are? Edited September 27, 2012 by Gordon R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ME Posted September 27, 2012 Report Share Posted September 27, 2012 I fink dis missle looks constructive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yankeedoodlepigeon Posted September 27, 2012 Report Share Posted September 27, 2012 Looks more destructive to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ST3V3 Posted September 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2012 I fink dis missle looks constructive I have a very good use for that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ST3V3 Posted September 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2012 have you got a contract mikky Do you have a job description, defining what your roles and responsibilities are? I have worked there 20 years in my last role for the last 5 the last contract i was issued was 15 years ago as for job description nothing there either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
storme37 Posted September 27, 2012 Report Share Posted September 27, 2012 (edited) I have worked there 20 years in my last role for the last 5 the last contract i was issued was 15 years ago as for job description nothing there either go for it they owe you, claim ageism or sexism anything to boost the chances Edited September 27, 2012 by storme37 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magus69 Posted September 27, 2012 Report Share Posted September 27, 2012 So you haven't left your job as a result?. If my boss came to me and said that I no longer had to be responsible for the technicians as he'd employed somebody else to do it, I'd probably kiss him !!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted September 27, 2012 Report Share Posted September 27, 2012 Are they still paying you? I would think asking for an updated job description in light of this new management structure is essential! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVB Posted September 28, 2012 Report Share Posted September 28, 2012 Are they paying you the same? Have they demoted your job title (you were manager and now you are clerk for example)? If not then you won't get anywhere with constructive dismisal. All they have done is restructured their business and realigend some responsabilities. Count yourself lucky that you are getting paid the same for a smaller job! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted September 28, 2012 Report Share Posted September 28, 2012 Take no advice from anyone off here and see a brief. See an employment specialist. Constructive dismissal is hard to prove - normally there is an event that is so bad and so terrible that it fundamentally and irreparably breaks the employer and employee relationship. My most recent one was "if you don't resign right now I'll destroy your career". Charming eh? The problem normally is that people faff about and ponce about getting BS advice off forums and mates down the pub rather than seeing a proper brief and yes, paying the rates. They faff, leave it a week or so but still keep going into work. The killer to a constructive dismissal claim is carrying on going to work - that shows that whatever happened wasn't actually that bad, or if it was that bad then it's been accepted by the employee. The big whammy for the employee is that throwing your cards in on the "possibility" of having a constructive dismissal claim is a big big leap of faith because if a Tribunal finds that there was no constructive dismissal and the employee just left, then the employee gets nothing. Who knows, there might be good news round the corner for the OP or at least a compromise agreement with a decent "TTFN" £number in it. Tread carefully and for the love of Jeff, see a brief - see a decent one too. If you talk quickly you can keep it to under £500 probably. Oh, and the ones that do half an hour for free to hook you in etc.... question, when was the last time you got something of any value for nothing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter_zero Posted September 28, 2012 Report Share Posted September 28, 2012 Take no advice from anyone off here and see a brief. See an employment specialist. Very good advice! I recently left my job of nine years (last week in fact) due to the way that the company had been treating staff. They didn't want me to leave, so they were as much of a pain as they could have been, even stopping my final salary knowing we have a five month old baby to take care of. Most home insurance policies will have cover for contractual disputes with employers but "it's free" and as such you will get very basic advice, try there first and then if you still want to continue, try CAB and go from there. If you want my advice, right now you are angry at your employer and feel silly and undermined with the staff, your emotions and morals can lead you in to difficult waters, sometimes you will sink! Think long and hard. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ME Posted September 28, 2012 Report Share Posted September 28, 2012 Take no advice from anyone off here and see a brief. See an employment specialist. Constructive dismissal is hard to prove - normally there is an event that is so bad and so terrible that it fundamentally and irreparably breaks the employer and employee relationship. My most recent one was "if you don't resign right now I'll destroy your career". Charming eh? The problem normally is that people faff about and ponce about getting BS advice off forums and mates down the pub rather than seeing a proper brief and yes, paying the rates. They faff, leave it a week or so but still keep going into work. The killer to a constructive dismissal claim is carrying on going to work - that shows that whatever happened wasn't actually that bad, or if it was that bad then it's been accepted by the employee. The big whammy for the employee is that throwing your cards in on the "possibility" of having a constructive dismissal claim is a big big leap of faith because if a Tribunal finds that there was no constructive dismissal and the employee just left, then the employee gets nothing. Who knows, there might be good news round the corner for the OP or at least a compromise agreement with a decent "TTFN" £number in it. Tread carefully and for the love of Jeff, see a brief - see a decent one too. If you talk quickly you can keep it to under £500 probably. Oh, and the ones that do half an hour for free to hook you in etc.... question, when was the last time you got something of any value for nothing? Yeah yeah, whatever. What about this missile though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted September 28, 2012 Report Share Posted September 28, 2012 Obviously I meant to preface my post with 'let your fists do the talking and your employer's teeth do the listening' (etc) I'm liking the missiles - don't bring a brief to a grievance hearing, bring a bank of missiles. Indeed, nothing says I'm right like a high explosive payload Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlosdesilva Posted September 28, 2012 Report Share Posted September 28, 2012 say your boss touched your private bits ,and play the race card!then get signed off long term with stress!Everyones doing it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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