Siberian Tiger Posted October 7, 2012 Report Share Posted October 7, 2012 I've been shooting for about a year and have always been able to obliterate rabbits - definitely my banker clay! Since using a very lovely Beretta, I've not been abole to hit a single one . I swear the bloody thing could stop dead in front on me and I would still miss! I got my now redundant Yildiz back out, and still no luck . I have no idea why I've gone to pieces with bunnies , every other target I seem to have improved on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerettaSV10 Posted October 7, 2012 Report Share Posted October 7, 2012 Might be worth trying a clay ground that has rabbits laid on, to see where you are placing your shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siberian Tiger Posted October 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2012 I've been up to Worsley and stood on their practice stand for ages and no idea where I am missing them . . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arv Posted October 7, 2012 Report Share Posted October 7, 2012 With rabbits they tend to slow down very quick so wait as long as you can, shoot its front legs off (low) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeon pete Posted October 7, 2012 Report Share Posted October 7, 2012 can you see where the shot is hitting the ground by the rabbit ,is it hitting behind high or low or in front ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark Posted October 7, 2012 Report Share Posted October 7, 2012 You are likely in front of it and may also be shooting over it. Shoot the rabbits feet off and don't get too far ahead if the rabbit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulos Posted October 7, 2012 Report Share Posted October 7, 2012 Listen, lady. Rabbits need at least 12ft lead... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman Posted October 7, 2012 Report Share Posted October 7, 2012 Have you changed the batteries ???? PS, sorry only read the title Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azzurri Posted October 7, 2012 Report Share Posted October 7, 2012 That IS the quote of the year !! **** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azzurri Posted October 7, 2012 Report Share Posted October 7, 2012 And what's wrong with weeing yourself laughing ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshLamb Posted October 7, 2012 Report Share Posted October 7, 2012 Keep the gun moving! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orangeclay Posted October 8, 2012 Report Share Posted October 8, 2012 Maybe this helps: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Siberian Tiger Posted October 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 I have a shiney new toy to play with. Sooooo, just as soon as I'm up to it, i'll be back on the rabbits! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikk Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 I've been up to Worsley and stood on their practice stand for ages and no idea where I am missing them . . . . They changed the rabbit stands recently (before this post?). The one on the practice stand was a right to left with sometimes a slow left to right. Now there is a quick left to right with less window to see it and mount I can't hit this from gun down at the moment. Also on the member stands there's a pretty quick left to right as well. I used to find the old one easy but probably only because I did it so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulos Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 Shoot it gun up then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COACH Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 This is quite common when changing guns. With a change of gun not only can the fit be different but you tend to look at the gun while swinging to double check your lead. This is absolutely taboo. You need to look so hard at the clay that you can see the makers name. Its a fact that the Beretta is generally higher than the Yildiz, so you may be shooting over the top. One reason many shooters can't get onto a fast rabbit is because they start with the gun not only too close to the trap but also the muzzles are held on the hold point far too high. Push your hold point out closer to your kill point and then look back to the trap. But the muzzles must be kept just under the line of the clay. That is to say that the clay needs to JUST cross over the rib, that way you will never lose sight of the clay and you can get on it quicker but smoothly using a parallel mount. As you mount, the muzzles must NOT drop but just swing. Mount into the cheek and not the shoulder first with 60% of your weight on the front foot which should be pointing towards you kill point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikk Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 Good advice Coach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChAoS Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 no idea where I am missing them Perhaps it'd be good idea to get someone to video you shooting (or, at least, "scaring") those wascaly wabbits. Then, you could view the results and do a post mortem. I, too, seem to have lost the knack with rabbits. I'm considering buying a cheap camcorder to get video of me shooting clays (and PSG) to see where I'm going wrong. Regards, Mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 This is quite common when changing guns. With a change of gun not only can the fit be different but you tend to look at the gun while swinging to double check your lead. This is absolutely taboo. You need to look so hard at the clay that you can see the makers name. Its a fact that the Beretta is generally higher than the Yildiz, so you may be shooting over the top. One reason many shooters can't get onto a fast rabbit is because they start with the gun not only too close to the trap but also the muzzles are held on the hold point far too high. Push your hold point out closer to your kill point and then look back to the trap. But the muzzles must be kept just under the line of the clay. That is to say that the clay needs to JUST cross over the rib, that way you will never lose sight of the clay and you can get on it quicker but smoothly using a parallel mount. As you mount, the muzzles must NOT drop but just swing. Mount into the cheek and not the shoulder first with 60% of your weight on the front foot which should be pointing towards you kill point. Very good advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COACH Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 Mark (Chaos) pop down to Wylye for a play and I'll have a quick look for ya....no charge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChAoS Posted October 29, 2012 Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 Mark (Chaos) pop down to Wylye for a play and I'll have a quick look for ya....no charge. That's very kind of you, Robert. If you remember, when Dann and I visited Wylye for the ShootinUK meet, I was shooting that M37 riot gun. well, I now shoot something a lot less suitable for clays - a reproduction Winchester 1887. I may not be able to hit clays wiv it, but it's *enormous* fun when shootin' PSG. I still think that videoing someone shooting can help a lot. Just after I got my FAC, I was filmed shooting "mano a mano" against a club member. We were shooting two of my M37s. The film showed something glaringly different in the way we were shooting - I was doing what many PSG beginners do and waiting to see if I'd knocked a target over before engaging the next. The more experienced PSGer did *not*; he shot at each target and picked up any that he'd missed at the end. On film, this difference was *obvious*. Anyhoo, I've not been clay shooting for a while. I'll suggest to me posse that we take a trip down the A303 before Xmas. Nice to hear from you, Robert. Regards, Mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catweazle Posted October 29, 2012 Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 Try aiming lower for the rabbit, at least there is a chance that some low shot will bounce up and hit it whereas high shot isn't going to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lock Stock & Barrel Posted October 29, 2012 Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 This is quite common when changing guns. With a change of gun not only can the fit be different but you tend to look at the gun while swinging to double check your lead. This is absolutely taboo. You need to look so hard at the clay that you can see the makers name. Its a fact that the Beretta is generally higher than the Yildiz, so you may be shooting over the top. One reason many shooters can't get onto a fast rabbit is because they start with the gun not only too close to the trap but also the muzzles are held on the hold point far too high. Push your hold point out closer to your kill point and then look back to the trap. But the muzzles must be kept just under the line of the clay. That is to say that the clay needs to JUST cross over the rib, that way you will never lose sight of the clay and you can get on it quicker but smoothly using a parallel mount. As you mount, the muzzles must NOT drop but just swing. Mount into the cheek and not the shoulder first with 60% of your weight on the front foot which should be pointing towards you kill point. Great advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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