keg Posted November 12, 2012 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 Does not deserve a prison sentence, a quiet word in his ear would have been more than enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grasshopper Posted November 12, 2012 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 Signed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxshooter69 Posted November 12, 2012 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 Signed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazzab Posted November 12, 2012 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 Signed. poxy country. Again makes me blooming sick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scifiden Posted November 12, 2012 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 signed :good: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philscreens Posted November 12, 2012 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 signed lets hope he back with his family soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scruff Posted November 12, 2012 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 Signed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peskyfoxs Posted November 13, 2012 Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 Currently being discussed on Radio 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted November 13, 2012 Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 The guy appear to have broken the Law, he has also pleaded Guilty. So, that makes life a bit tricky, just the same, the legal system is about JUSTICE, has justice been served, I think perhaps a lot more debate to come on that! its not an offence that can be denied, all the forces know you aren't allowed to bring trophies back or weapons to sell on the black market and some get caught. Its a lot less than the mandatory 5 years we would get. Yes he has plenty of excuses but they are simply that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffo64 Posted November 13, 2012 Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 Signed. Good luck to him and his family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 So who still thinks he had no idea of the gun in the box and it was a complete stitch up? Transcripts from the court martial seen by the BBC showed that in addition to the weapon, Sgt Danny Nightingale had about 300 rounds of ammunition. The transcripts showed that Sgt Nightingale had 122 live rounds of 9mm ammunition, 40 live rounds of 7.62 ammunition, 50 frangible rounds of 9mm ammunition, 50 live rounds of armour piecing ammunition, two live rounds of .308 ammunition and 74 live rounds of 5.56 ammunition in the same locked box as the pistol. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hereford-worcester-20323762 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 (edited) So who still thinks he had no idea of the gun in the box and it was a complete stitch up? Transcripts from the court martial seen by the BBC showed that in addition to the weapon, Sgt Danny Nightingale had about 300 rounds of ammunition. The transcripts showed that Sgt Nightingale had 122 live rounds of 9mm ammunition, 40 live rounds of 7.62 ammunition, 50 frangible rounds of 9mm ammunition, 50 live rounds of armour piecing ammunition, two live rounds of .308 ammunition and 74 live rounds of 5.56 ammunition in the same locked box as the pistol. http://www.bbc.co.uk...cester-20323762 That means nothing if his kit was packed up in theatre he justifiably would have it in his kit, They don't hand it back at the end of each day. Theres probably a couple of pairs of dirty kaks and some rancid socks as well. As the kit was never opened and was found in a house at which he wasn't living how would he have known it was there. I thought one of the principles of law was that the prosecution has to show intent. If, without your knowledge, I mailed a gun to you and it was delivered while you were out at work but somebody took the parcel in left it in the hall. Then I tipped off the police and they raided your house and found it before you got home. Would you be guilty of anything? What crime would you have committed? Edited November 15, 2012 by Vince Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 thats assuming you believe he had absolutely no knowledge or recollection it was there and that wasn't an excuse for keeping it and it appears plenty of ammo for it. Its a serious issue military bringing back weapons and taking them home as they tend to re surface either when sold on the black market or in domestic disturbances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ordnance Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 (edited) Question what are the rules and regs when it comes to soldiers excepting firearms as a thank you when in Afghanistan etc. ? Is it OK as long as you leave them there. Edited November 15, 2012 by ordnance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galkoi Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 Signed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 This gives a lot more detail makes good reading for those incensed by the sentence, would appear he got off rather lightly http://www.judiciary.gov.uk/Resources/JCO/Documents/Judgments/nightingale-proceedings-0607112012.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstone Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 Meanwhile, gangbangers are given slaps on the wrist for this kind of stuff. "it's not their fault, it's society's" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 read the link, he was hoarding ammo his flat mate was also hoarding ammo a similar handgun and a bloody hand grenade in the garage. The judge does sum it up very well and the sentence is lenient and also leaves the door open for him staying in the army. Any of the rest of us would have gone down for 5 years plus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guest1957 Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 read the link, he was hoarding ammo his flat mate was also hoarding ammo a similar handgun and a bloody hand grenade in the garage. The judge does sum it up very well and the sentence is lenient and also leaves the door open for him staying in the army. Any of the rest of us would have gone down for 5 years plus The hoarding ammo bit does certainly cast doubt on the rest of the story. Long read though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 its a long read but worth it as the summary at the end shows how wrong the papers are and that significant leniency was shown, but that never gets in the way of the papers enjoying a hard luck story and publishing half the facts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guest1957 Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 its a long read but worth it as the summary at the end shows how wrong the papers are and that significant leniency was shown, but that never gets in the way of the papers enjoying a hard luck story and publishing half the facts. I read it all, the judge took steps at every stage to be lenient. They way I read it, the gun isn't so much the issue as all the ammunition he hoarded Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Harry Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 I did read it all and like you say I think it's fair. It's a bloody shame though and hopefully he can get back to his old unit ASAP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tus Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 signed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mangled99 Posted November 19, 2012 Report Share Posted November 19, 2012 Danny Nightingale's former commanding officer pays tribute to jailed hero http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/defence/9685195/SAS-Commander-pays-tribute-to-jailed-hero.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet1747 Posted November 19, 2012 Report Share Posted November 19, 2012 I agree with wot every one is saying and think it is wrong he is jailed, but he did pack it and bring it home, he should have given it to the armoury to bring home and turn it in to a show piece ,not him self bring a banned fire arm in to the country Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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