zipmiester Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 Ok here is my rant all be it justified u believe.... I have had no birds on my land for 3 months now and no rape so I enquired about paying for a day on here .... So I thought I suppose 25 quid ent bad if the guys garuntee that the pigeon are hammering the field and he told me the day before I'm due there's 1000s on it I've been up there just I was dead excited and I could justify 25 quid for the guy to be taking the time to find the pigeons and where there feeding . So I set up all be it stil and not cloudy 0 birds flew anywhere near the field and when I looked around there was no sign of pigeon **** on that field anywhere let alone the day before being 1000s there it has made me very angry for parting with the money because anyone knows that birds don't suddenly not got there I'f the day before there feeding there in droves rant over but disappointed to be fed lies by someone on here the sport I's hard enough to do as it is . Anyone else had similar experience ... Oh to make it worse the guy said the other chaps had 35 and yesterday txt a pal of mine that the 2 hides that day had 75 and 85 all I say to that is ******** all of it want to name and shame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catweazle Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 I say name and let them respond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filzee Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 £25 doesnt sound too bad i suppose but i would be really annoyed if i didn't see anything. If they have been around you should atleast see a few the next day. On a farm i shoot on there is a strip of rape still in as cover crop and i was seeing hundreds hammering it day after day, i set up to shoot it and didn't see a bird. Just goes to show they should be there but doesnt always go to plan. What area are you in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catweazle Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 On a farm i shoot on there is a strip of rape still in as cover crop and i was seeing hundreds hammering it day after day, i set up to shoot it and didn't see a bird. Just goes to show they should be there but doesnt always go to plan. It can happen. I went shooting with member CZ550Kevlar on a permission that had been having a lot of pigeons. On the day we saw only the odd one or two at a time, and CZ was really stumped, so we had a quick drive around the area and found that a farm next door had just cut a big strip of cover crop and it had literally thousands of pigeons on it and a constant stream of them between some woodland and the crop, you'd have to see it to believe it - they were circling waiting for a space to land, we could have cleaned up big time if we'd had permission there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salty Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 I think you owe it to us all to at least be clear about who you are talking about, so others don't go into anything without their eyes open. Personally the only thing I'd ever pay to shoot is clays, but I do understand how desperation sets in at times. Sorry to hear you had a bad experience. So who was it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 Nothing in this sport is ever guaranteed, but i'd want to see a little bit of action if i was paying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebridges Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 Where are you from then zipmiester ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 Nobody can guarantee the bag, if you pay for a day shooting wild birds. They can be on a field one day and nowhere in sight the next day. There have been lots of reports on the Forum about shooters that have paid and had excellent days and others have not done so well. We have all had that happen when we invite other guns on to our shooting. If you don't think you had a fair deal, then don't buy another day from that member, but don't "name and shame" on the Forum, because that is not fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipmiester Posted December 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 Birmingham mate I drove to leicster way ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caeser Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 I have an open mind about this. Just let me explain why. I have watched pigeon feeding by the hundred on a couple of rape fields for a couple of weeks. I went to the same fields a couple of days later, set up and sat there looking at blank skies for a couple of hours. This was only last week. I have also just watched the same field today for half an hour, and they're there again. So, in fairness, it's not impossible that there was 1000's there the previous day. Rape shooting can be a hit and miss affair.( excuse the pun.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebarrels Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 sorry mate but I disagree ,pay your money and take your chances pigeons on one day and away the next,thats shooting for ya if you want to pay and guarantee targets,go clay shooting BB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipmiester Posted December 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 I wasn't that bothered till today when they get a txt off him saying that the 2 hides that went Sunday being me had 75 and 85 each I know birds come and go but figures of dead birds don't so the thing is how can u believe someone who txt that sayin the lads cleaned up Sunday and you should come ?? And ok birds come and go but u can see when birds are feeding on an area be it feathers and poo plus damage ie corns eaten ...... Come on I understand birds are wild but I ent stupid ......... The txt and figures are the lie please read that ....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebarrels Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 (edited) I wasn't that bothered till today when they get a txt off him saying that the 2 hides that went Sunday being me had 75 and 85 each I know birds come and go but figures of dead birds don't so the thing is how can u believe someone who txt that sayin the lads cleaned up Sunday and you should come ?? And ok birds come and go but u can see when birds are feeding on an area be it feathers and poo plus damage ie corns eaten ...... Come on I understand birds are wild but I ent stupid ......... The txt and figures are the lie please read that ....... well mate just put it down to experience not really a lot you can do now :good : but if what you say above(see bold)is true, well that puts a different slant on things,sounds like hes cashing in to sit you in a field for a day BB Edited December 5, 2012 by Bluebarrels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 sorry mate but I disagree ,pay your money and take your chances pigeons on one day and away the next,thats shooting for ya if you want to pay and guarantee targets,go clay shooting BB Birds won't necessarily stay on the same field. But if i paid my hard earned i would expect to then be moved to a different spot where there was a chance of a few shots. If this was a guided day, this would be the very least i would expect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBS Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 I think for 25 you have to take your chances and get over it, unless he guaranteed you a certain bag? Perhaps a more diplomatic response would have been to ask for another day on the basis that if you had a good second day then you would pay but if you drew another blank it would be for free? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salty Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 I think the OP was resigned to the fact he'd just been unlucky, but feels the location and 'scope of opportunity' were a little over sold. I get the impression the fact he was used as a 'reference' to another prospective punter was what really boiled his blood. Seems there is a bit of a Del Boy character exploiting the good nature of some members. Buyer beware! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebarrels Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 Birds won't necessarily stay on the same field. But if i paid my hard earned i would expect to then be moved to a different spot where there was a chance of a few shots. If this was a guided day, this would be the very least i would expect. Guided day for £25 I very much doubt that,BB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipmiester Posted December 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 See there's no stopping me from doing it but I wouldn or couldn't do it to someone I wouldn't mind takin anyone on mine when the pigeons are on it but some people see it as though its an easy way of making money ..... Ohh should of come yesterday bullcrap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipmiester Posted December 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 Salty cheers pal you got it in one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catweazle Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 I still say name him. At least if anyone else gets a txt saying "75 and 85 yesterday" they'll know to take it with a pinch of salt. Also, let's not forget we've had someone on here selling days and posting pictures from years ago as "last weekend", so it's not the first time something like this has happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigman Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 Iv had a couple of paid days pigeon shooting and although not shooting big bags each time iv been i learnt a few things an gained alittle bit more experiance out doing what i love £25 for that no biggy , spent more going to the pictures and i dont even enjoy that for a beginner pigeon shooter like myself these cheap days are a god send Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tod Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 A guide in Leicester that advertisors pigeon shooting days, dont need Columbo for this one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebarrels Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 (edited) I still say name him. At least if anyone else gets a txt saying "75 and 85 yesterday" they'll know to take it with a pinch of salt. Also, let's not forget we've had someone on here selling days and posting pictures from years ago as "last weekend", so it's not the first time something like this has happened. Yep I agree name him buying a days shooting is always risky,but as said above he should have tried to get you onto a few birds at the very least next youll be telling us he was selling bags of corn to attract the birds :lol: BB Edited December 5, 2012 by Bluebarrels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerdeor Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 TBH £25 is cheap and I wouldnt expect for the vendor to be much help.In my expereince you pay £60 for a day and the vendor will do his upmost to put you under the birds just saying like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anser2 Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 £25 is not a lot of money for a days guided pigeon shooting. My club had a draw last year and I offered a days pigeon shooting . 3 guns won a days pigeon shooting. They all bid in excess of £100 for the day. We had a hell of a job to find any pigeons on the first day and as I was about to offer the guy an alternet day we stumbled on a nice flock feeding on clover. He had about 100 shots and ended up with 50 birds. The second guy shot the same field 2 weeks later. Plenty of pigeons , but he was not a very experianced pigeon shot. never the less for 40 shots he managed 9. The final guy set on rape and he had about 30 shots for 25 birds. I was pleased to find the guys some good shooting but it took a lot of fieldwork to find the birds on 2 of the days. Fields that had been blue with pigeons were empty and the weather did not help , being windless. If you are paying for pigeon shooting the guy should at least have a couple of alternitive fields to offer you in the event of the first being emplty of birds , but with wild birds you can never be sure what they are going to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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