thepasty Posted February 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 Used section 1 pumps are normally cheaper than an equivalent section 2, I've managed to get both mine at good prices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuartph Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 The pump family, Franchi was set in pump mode for photo Stuart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Poon Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 Is the franchi a sec 1 or 2 , what's it like compared to the others ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throdgrain Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 Everyone with any sense has a Remington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Poon Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 Everyone with any sense has a Remington Very true , there's pumps that's been and gone in my cabinet but the Wingmaster will always be with me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malik Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 Everyone with any sense has a Remington I think Remington should give you freebees for your passion and commitment towards them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChAoS Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 Everyone with any sense has a Remington Well, o'course, I favour Ithacas, m'self. But, yeah, when I shoot clays, it's usually with a Wingmaster... Regards, Mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throdgrain Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 I think Remington should give you freebees for your passion and commitment towards them I've asked, but they haven't given me anything yet :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuartph Posted February 7, 2014 Report Share Posted February 7, 2014 I'd so like a wingmaster to sit beside my super mag 870 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossberg-operator Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 (edited) Thinking of buying a Mossberg 590 on section 2. But which version? Which version? Would use it for pigeons (clay, real) now with the possibility of applying for FAC to do practical shooting in the near future. (Would convert the gun). Edited February 16, 2014 by londonercsecse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markbrowning Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 Thinking of buying a Mossberg 590 on section 2. But which version? Which version? Would use it for pigeons (clay, real) now with the possibility of applying for FAC to do practical shooting in the near future. (Would convert the gun). Get the solid muzzle not the bird cage one. The non tri-rail is nice to pump as you have more surface area to grab. However the speedfeed stock is a nice touch. Tough call Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TbirdX Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 (edited) Well, o'course, I favour Ithacas, m'self. Regards, Mark. Likewise but I use my Ithaca on clays :-) Edited February 16, 2014 by TbirdX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossberg-operator Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 (edited) Get the solid muzzle not the bird cage one. The non tri-rail is nice to pump as you have more surface area to grab. However the speedfeed stock is a nice touch. Tough call hi! What is the advantage of birdcage barrel? Or the tri-rail? Edited February 16, 2014 by londonercsecse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markbrowning Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 hi! What is the advantage of birdcage barrel? Or the tri-rail? I have no idea about the Birdcage muzzle if it had any advantage or not. I suppose you could class it as being ported so in theory would reduce muzzle flip. But all nonsense and in my opinion looks a ugly as sin! As for the tri-rail.... You pretty much fit anything to it that has a picinitay attachment. Grips, pods, lights, lazers etc.... Search back in this thread you will see pictured my mates 590 "big ed" who has got all sorts attached to his forend rail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catweazle Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 I seem to remember that ported barrels aren't allowed in UK practical shotgun comps, perhaps an expert could confirm or deny this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throdgrain Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 Thinking of buying a Mossberg 590 on section 2. But which version? Which version? Would use it for pigeons (clay, real) now with the possibility of applying for FAC to do practical shooting in the near future. (Would convert the gun). Only thing about the 590 ; it has a fixed cylinder choke iirc, which can be a pain in the **** for some targets. The 500 has a multi choke, but most are 28" barrels, which seems to long too me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossberg-operator Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 Only thing about the 590 ; it has a fixed cylinder choke iirc, which can be a pain in the **** for some targets. The 500 has a multi choke, but most are 28" barrels, which seems to long too me. hi! Like to have a short barrel (24.5). Know about the fixed cylinder. Compromise. Thx! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossberg-operator Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 So, maybe the tri-rail is the one for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theshootist Posted February 17, 2014 Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 I seem to remember that ported barrels aren't allowed in UK practical shotgun comps, perhaps an expert could confirm or deny this. A ported barrel would put you into (I think) the open division? That means you would be competing against things like mag fed Vepr or Saiga. Is the cage not just something that they welded on to make the barrel reach the 24" minimum? Or possibly just intended to make the gun look more attractive in the US market. I can't think of any reason to have one... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throdgrain Posted February 17, 2014 Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 If you mean the thing on the end of the barrel, yes it was added to get the barrel up to 24". Theres no other reason for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil smith Posted February 18, 2014 Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 Thinking of buying a Mossberg 590 on section 2. But which version? Which version? Would use it for pigeons (clay, real) now with the possibility of applying for FAC to do practical shooting in the near future. (Would convert the gun). The Mossberg is a good gun but not the best for practical shooting competition because extending the magazine is extremely difficult, the best option is a gun that can easily install screw-on extension tubes, a good make being Nordic components. There are many to choose from including Remington, Benelli, Winchester, Browning or Hatsan depending on your budget, all will take an extended tube. Ported Barrels will put you in Modified Division against Semi-auto shooters at any IPSC sanctioned competition, if you shoot the four4islands series in the UK it won't make any difference, you will remain in pump division. However magazine capacity & speed loading will dominate the list of things your practical shotgun needs if you wish to be competitive, also a multi-choke is a big advantage, this is why the Benelli & Remington tend to be the top choices for this sport, the Mossberg is slow to load as it has no lifter to help guide in the shells, you should also look at quad loading if you aim to be competitive. Here is what you need to learn, eight shells loaded in 2.8 seconds using AP Customs shell caddies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throdgrain Posted February 18, 2014 Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 The Mossberg is a good gun but not the best for practical shooting competition because extending the magazine is extremely difficult, the best option is a gun that can easily install screw-on extension tubes, a good make being Nordic components. There are many to choose from including Remington, Benelli, Winchester, Browning or Hatsan depending on your budget, all will take an extended tube. Ported Barrels will put you in Modified Division against Semi-auto shooters at any IPSC sanctioned competition, if you shoot the four4islands series in the UK it won't make any difference, you will remain in pump division. However magazine capacity & speed loading will dominate the list of things your practical shotgun needs if you wish to be competitive, also a multi-choke is a big advantage, this is why the Benelli & Remington tend to be the top choices for this sport, the Mossberg is slow to load as it has no lifter to help guide in the shells, you should also look at quad loading if you aim to be competitive. Here is what you need to learn, eight shells loaded in 2.8 seconds using AP Customs shell caddies. The quote says he's using it for pigeons mate, not Jack Bauer-a-thons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil smith Posted February 18, 2014 Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 with the possibility of applying for FAC to do practical shooting in the near future. (Would convert the gun). Sorry I only read this part of his post, it seemed to be the relevant bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossberg-operator Posted February 18, 2014 Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 (edited) Hi guys! Thx for all the answers! Would use it for pigeons as an SGC, than maybe changing for FAC, which means won't be used on live quarry any more. Only on practical. Only considering all options. Got a budget of no more than a grand. Rest of my budget is going to Disneyland . Reloading video is awesome. Had to watch it in slow motion... Will look into the other makers too. Where to buy all the speedloading accesories in the UK? Edited February 18, 2014 by londonercsecse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Poon Posted February 18, 2014 Report Share Posted February 18, 2014 The charity shoot will be held in a few months it'll be good to see some of you pumpers there showing off your skills with your pump action, at a 100 bird sporting shoot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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