Badgerpig Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 I'll think you find there is Mr Cameron, 12 million students in India March 2011 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-12597815 386,000 student places in England 2011, which was later cut by 15% http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/universityeducation/9039586/Student-outrage-as-university-places-are-cut-by-15000.html absolutely bonkers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CZ550Kevlar Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 (edited) They really are out of touch, the tory party have gone mad and making even Labour look semi sane Hell the next election I'm voting Green Party. Edit- I feel guilty and sick for voting for these idiots. Edited February 18, 2013 by CZ550Kevlar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beeredup Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 theres nothing new there when i studied for my ships officers qualifications back in 2004 at the nautical college i attended my class of 25 was made up of myself and irish gentleman and 23 indians and pakistani's who dont get on very well apparently They really are out of touch, the tory party have gone mad and making even Labour look semi sane Hell the next election I'm voting Green Party. Edit- I feel guilty and sick for voting for these idiots. vote monster raving loony mate i can't see em doing a worse job than either the tories or labour! sod voting lib dem as i dont fancy goin to work on a bike!! (i'll get wet i work on an oil rig) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFN Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 (edited) I'll think you find there is Mr Cameron, 12 million students in India March 2011 http://www.bbc.co.uk...siness-12597815 386,000 student places in England 2011, which was later cut by 15% http://www.telegraph...t-by-15000.html absolutely bonkers! To be fair, he did say that there is no limit for those who can find places. Seems quite reasonable to me as we can't compete industrially with the likes of China and India but we can be, and are, one of the world leaders in education and technology so can attract students, and money, from abroad. The more oversees students that come, the more money the universities get. They can then expand physically and technologically. Edited February 18, 2013 by FalconFN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aris Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 UKIP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unapalomablanca Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 A true liberal, in every sense. I voted thinking he was a right winger. What a fool i was. Never again, 2010 was my last ever vote. It's nice to be out of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beeredup Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 UKIP +1 i have no problem with people who come to study here to give them selves a better life once they return home to thier mother land, not one of the foreign student in my class claimed any kind of benefits as they were paid to be be there by their sponsoring companies although we did have one go awol he dropped out of hte course and tried to disapear but apparently according to my class mates he was found by immigration seeking work which was in breach of his visa and he went to the airport! which is a shame as he was finding the course hard work and it would of meant he lost his job and his family would of ended up in the brown stuff! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badgerpig Posted February 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 To be fair, he did say that there is no limit for those who can find places. Seems quite reasonable to me as we can't compete industrially with the likes of China and India but we can be, and are, one of the world leaders in education and technology so can attract students, and money, from abroad. The more oversees students that come, the more money the universities get. They can then expand physically and technologically. Fair enough but if that soundbite gets across India and 1% of students are motivated and rich enough to try for a place thats nearly a third of Englands university places gone, that doesnt leave much left for British kids Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 All the builders who built the extension on the house next door were Indian "students" here on student visas. Its a massive scam they pay an amount of money to a bogus college which does nothing more than register them as students. Then they work in KFC or in the building trade for below minimum wage illegally for three years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrapFiller Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 A true liberal, in every sense. I voted thinking he was a right winger. What a fool i was. Never again, 2010 was my last ever vote. It's nice to be out of it. So I assume you will not be complaining about the next government then?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unapalomablanca Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 All the builders who built the extension on the house next door were Indian "students" here on student visas. Its a massive scam they pay an amount of money to a bogus college which does nothing more than register them as students. Then they work in KFC or in the building trade for below minimum wage illegally for three years. Did you report this illegality So I assume you will not be complaining about the next government then?? when and where was i complaining about this one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beeredup Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 the indian lads who come here to study for our merchant navy qualifications (the one most companies want) will all tell you that the indian qualifications are ridiculously hard to pass due to corruption and if your lecturer takes a dislike to you thats it your a fail!! its makes me mad to think our merchant navy is just about dead and gone but most shipping comapanies and insurers insist on brittish ticketed officers!! if you had to be a brit to get the ticket we would still have a thriving merchant navy!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrapFiller Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 when and where was i complaining about this one? Saying your not going to vote, in my opinion atleast, gives you no valid basis you a complaint regarding the next government. Also I never said that you complained about this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unapalomablanca Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 Saying your not going to vote, in my opinion atleast, gives you no valid basis you a complaint regarding the next government. Also I never said that you complained about this one. How can i know if i am going to moan about something in 3 years time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krugerandsmith Posted February 19, 2013 Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 UKIP aris. The only way to go . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beretta06 Posted February 19, 2013 Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 (edited) Unfortunately, to make a change people MUST vote - not bothering makes it hard to change things. To be honest, voting for Greens, Loonies etc is also a wasted vote. Reality dictates these groups will never get enough votes to make any impact on politics. So, we get the same old 3, plus an outsider - Con, Lab or Lib, with UKIP an outsider. I say outsider because under our voting system it is nigh on impossible for UKIP to go from 'nowhere' to power in a single General Election. Edited February 19, 2013 by Beretta06 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aris Posted February 19, 2013 Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 Getting to power isn't the point. I think realistically UKIP have no hope of EVER getting into power - and they know it. But a rise in the votes for UKIP can most certainly influence the other larger parties policies. This is why I would vote in that direction. There is lots wrong with UKIP - but lots right with it too. To be honest, no matter who you vote for these days - Con/Lab/Lib - they are all pretty much the same. Perhaps a bit left or right of a varying centre. I often think the Australian system where voting is a legal requirement is a good one. Even if you spoil your vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e2000e2000e Posted February 19, 2013 Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 The number of University places quoted is the number of funded subsidised places available, although students pay fees government still funds part, not a limit on how many people can actually be at university! For example on my course there was 12 places available, as in the uni had funding available from government for 12 students, we also had 40 odd lads from Kuwait where the uni had a partnership with a college, most of those lads firms were paying for them to be here, it didn't matter how many kuwaittees were there paying 3 times as much as us there was still only 12 places! Indian Students don't take the place of UK students, infact the more Indian students the more money into Unis etc (Overseas students pay about 3 times what uk students pay). Higher education is one of this countries best products, and bring alot of foreign money in, Yes the visa system for students needs to be properly regulated, and does need to improve, but if people are coming to study at proper unis and spent their rupees here lets take their money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overandunder2012 Posted February 19, 2013 Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 Did you report this illegality who goes round reporting everything not enough hours in the day and lifes to short Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greymaster Posted February 19, 2013 Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 It used to be said that the UK was the 51st State, an outpost of the USA, which when you consider the future of the UK as an outpost of the Indian sub-continent, wasn't such a bad idea. The West is in terminal decline. India and China on the ascendant. No wonder Bladerunner and other futuristic portents show the West overrun. The course of history might have been different but for two 20th Century European civil wars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted February 19, 2013 Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 (edited) The number of University places quoted is the number of funded subsidised places available, although students pay fees government still funds part, not a limit on how many people can actually be at university! For example on my course there was 12 places available, as in the uni had funding available from government for 12 students, we also had 40 odd lads from Kuwait where the uni had a partnership with a college, most of those lads firms were paying for them to be here, it didn't matter how many kuwaittees were there paying 3 times as much as us there was still only 12 places! Indian Students don't take the place of UK students, infact the more Indian students the more money into Unis etc (Overseas students pay about 3 times what uk students pay). Higher education is one of this countries best products, and bring alot of foreign money in, Yes the visa system for students needs to be properly regulated, and does need to improve, but if people are coming to study at proper unis and spent their rupees here lets take their money. This is the right answer and in fact Cameron may well be helping to save our universities and create a new industry in effect. Even when I was at university because of the one I went to we had lots of foreign students, all were paying handsomely for the priviledge and due to that the University had some very good facilities. With that they employ lecturers from the Uk and all the facilities etc contribute to the economy, so while on the outside its set to get the uneducated knickers in a twist there isn't any reason Edited February 19, 2013 by al4x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simjakcal Posted February 19, 2013 Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 UKIP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
besty57 Posted February 19, 2013 Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 (edited) ukip one more here Edited February 19, 2013 by besty57 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted February 19, 2013 Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 The trouble with people voting UKIP is its taking votes away from the Conservatives predominantly. So in effect it becomes a default vote for labour. And we don't want those ******* back in power, I don't think the country could stand it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unapalomablanca Posted February 19, 2013 Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 who goes round reporting everything not enough hours in the day and lifes to short I dont know who does go around reporting everything? Who mentioned anything about reporting everything? Who asked your opinion anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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